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you're looking live

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at the post game report

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as my dog upstairs

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hears me

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and is going crazy

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up sound is there because i can hear me

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let's kill the youtube

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all right so

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how you doing michael i thought that was

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pretty good although i was surprised i

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was surprised by a couple of things that

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de long said and that

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how are you doing speculative future

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what did you guys think i was uh i

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thought they did well

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i'm glad you guys were here and we even

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got a i didn't

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i know

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red panda i saw they asked and i missed

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some stuff i'm trying to take notes and

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i was taking a lot of notes and it was

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stressful trying to keep up

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i know he said he didn't see your video

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but what was the question was it uh the

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three days yeah it's like come on give

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us a hint what kept you up for three

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and he kind of blew it off but then he

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says it's the whole gravity gravity of

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the situation and

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realizing this is real but there's

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actually obviously something more to it

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yeah hinting at the at the end there

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from here

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how's it going gav um

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mick is in the house

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mick i will get my drum set up one day i

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if it's the last thing i do and i don't

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want it to be the last thing

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i mean i can go down the list if anybody

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missed it

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and i need to pull it up so it's going

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to cover up i was surprised that

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semivan admitted that he was you know he

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never i don't think he's ever spoken

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about talking to people in the

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government saying hey

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we're going to do this we're going to

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take it in the private sector and uh

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you know we're not going to talk about

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classified information but for whatever

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you guys ain't getting it done so we're

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going to do it on our own

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um let me know if you guys ever have

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problems with the link somebody told me

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that the people the reason people aren't

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calling in audio or video is because the

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link doesn't work for europe but not

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everybody's in europe so

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all right please recap

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for those who already saw it i mean i'll

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some of my own ideas and i'm gonna

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thanks drew i'm gonna blow you guys i'm

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the chat for a second so it starts off

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semivan actually wrote down i wanted to

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make sure i had his quote right when he

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was on ufo class classified live he said

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i believe it's a non-human technology

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something other no question

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aft once we get past this you guys can

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go back and correct me he talked about

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flying out san diego to meet tom he

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wanted to make sure what tom was talking

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about you know where did he get this

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information who was leaking to tom and

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then he realized you know it's clear

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taking place and then they had breakfast

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the next day would put off in other

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i know one of those luminaries and i

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um and that person told me that the food

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setup was so good it was the best

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catering at the uh

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i don't know if it was oceanfront where

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ttsa they shook hands and have been

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friends ever since he didn't say if they

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reading so feel free and i'll i'll cut

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i don't want to give you too much live

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stuff you get bored of me um but i mean

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how rare it's not often you get to see

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semiband and such an extended thing i i

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why they're here when you first get into

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petroglyphs and everything and it's all

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of the puzzle piece that it all fits

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and then always trying to learn and he

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government source but he said uh

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he made this coin this

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what's it called it's a presentation

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the vitruvian man that's the man that's

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science and consciousness together um

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fact that he put ttsa together and was

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able to get all these people together

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they were looking for somebody like that

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you know he came up at the right time

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bug i'm trying to see your question

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his answers i know i wanted more

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that tom does that many interviews but i

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trickster element semi-van seems very

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know right no comment

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this information by jim he's just trying

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really don't know how that helps us but

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the cia i mean how is he not going to

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rogan interview there's there's other

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bunker and then he asks about skinwalker

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the skinwalker said john alexander is a

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dear friend of his i wrote down j a

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shortcut because ja is listed in the

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wilson davis documents as somebody who

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is a liar it's obviously i don't know

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besides john alexander but

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what happened at skinwalker according to

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jim what's true accurate and real when

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you go looking for the phenomenon it

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doesn't like to show itself it has low

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observative low observability so it

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hunt for the skinwalker and some people

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serious place where serious things

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happened so it's nice to get him on the

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record on that i've seen i mean anybody

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doesn't think it's all made up there are

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people that think that but either they

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don't have an open mind or they have i

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don't know they can't accept that

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paranormal stuff exists

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but alexander is into so many cool

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things we read his book whether it's

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i need to read all of it i've gone

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through it um did i see tom on rogan i

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was thinking tom rogan yes i did see tom

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on rogan at the time i liked it and then

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i said people heard people saying what a

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disaster so i played it for a friend of

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mine i'm like it's three hours my friend

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is not into ufos um

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but he's like i don't really have a

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problem with what he said i realized i'm

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not you know i'm not i don't know a lot

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of this stuff but for people who are

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into ufos it didn't sound that crazy to

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me you know when when when tom said he

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rogan was making it look like you know

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right next to the pentagon whatever

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alex dietrich i'll have to ask that

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least he thought he figured out which

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restaurant

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um

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tom talks about mutilations he went to

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mutilations for a while lights in the

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sky invisible entities poultry guys it's

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all happening in one place

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and as

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my friend nicole sackett says

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it happens at other places too and she's

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right but skinwalker is the most study

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there's other places there's dolce there

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is sedona there's a place in colorado

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there's

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yakima washington george knapp covers

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that in the book

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there's some other hot places all over

294
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the place probably with as much activity

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but we don't have enough people

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interested in this subject to put

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scientists on the ground so that place

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has been focused on

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tom says it toys with you

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if it knows you want to see something

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um it was documented by ph phd

302
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scientists we know about eric davis dr

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eric davis and colin kelleher and

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government scientists documented over

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decades in that whole area in the unit

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to hot spots so it's a great place to

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find out what's going on in one location

308
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gives alternate candidates for where

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they're from and what they're doing it

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gives you alternate candidates for where

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they're from meaning that you know

312
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whatever's there he doesn't think it's

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coming from another planet and i think

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that's a fair assumption or speculation

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um it helps you you know try to figure

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out what they are doing and how it all

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works i'm not sure if it's all connected

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to the stuff at skinwalker ranch it can

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be totally different than what other

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people deal with

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the data does not suggest that it's et

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more about frequencies dimensional

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dematerialized

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displacement craft that displaces our

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time like a submarine displaces water in

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the ocean

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um so i guess when they come here screws

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with our time

329
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um didn't he didn't get into details on

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that he said put off try to understand

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that and uh related to attributes of

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propulsion and then there are things

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adjacent to us that we don't see don't

334
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understand and every once in a while it

335
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crosses over which lewis talked about

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not he didn't talk about crossing over

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but he talks about how you know in the

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electromagnetic spectrum we can only see

339
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so much and now maybe our technology is

340
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catching up to that but i don't think

341
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our technology publicly has been that

342
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much advanced i mean we had the radar

343
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advances with the f-18s but i don't know

344
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what other

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technology advances we've had that we

346
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can detect them now all of a sudden and

347
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they're showing up visually too if you

348
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believe the 2019 stuff was uh uap which

349
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i wish they would have gotten into

350
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semi-van mentioned the navy

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um

352
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tom says yeah because we're aware and

353
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can see it

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is it because

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we're aware of it and can see it or is

356
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it because there's a geomet he's talking

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about skinwalker or is it because it's a

358
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geomagnetic area where it's easier to

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come through or is it just everywhere

360
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and it's probably everywhere um just

361
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maybe more visual there

362
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um

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i don't think las vegas has the kind of

364
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activity that skinwalker does you never

365
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know though or so active with casinos

366
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and stuff but you know what i'm you know

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what i mean

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um

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see any other questions

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joe do you talk with jon no i have not

371
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talked i have not talked with him i saw

372
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john alexander lecture at

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the

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for like a year straight it was great

375
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saw george knapp there i took i took

376
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people who are not into ufos to see nap

377
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they kind of liked it um and then

378
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alexander we saw and my ex-wife was like

379
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he's really creepy i i think that's the

380
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word she used um his lecture was fine it

381
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was a little boring for her but i liked

382
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it

383
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together and we had conversations in the

384
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car that i wish we would have taped

385
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because they were really good saying you

386
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know what some people think this is

387
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demonic demonic

388
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could be you never know

389
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and then guy would talk about the black

390
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eyed children

391
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hopefully if guy has a question good to

392
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see you guy

393
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um

394
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yeah i mean i think several several of

395
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us could do

396
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a better interview just because we know

397
00:14:01,910 --> 00:14:00,240
the subject inside and out and there's

398
00:14:04,389 --> 00:14:01,920
better questions to ask i thought it was

399
00:14:06,310 --> 00:14:04,399
fine um

400
00:14:08,470 --> 00:14:06,320
and guy i have not seen all the new

401
00:14:09,990 --> 00:14:08,480
episodes of skinwalker ranch supposedly

402
00:14:12,389 --> 00:14:10,000
the activity has picked up i mean it

403
00:14:13,750 --> 00:14:12,399
goes up and down up and down um

404
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i need to see it and i need to write

405
00:14:19,030 --> 00:14:15,680
about it

406
00:14:20,870 --> 00:14:19,040
missed our chats too let me get back to

407
00:14:22,710 --> 00:14:20,880
tom talking about

408
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mutilations

409
00:14:25,670 --> 00:14:23,519
oh

410
00:14:27,030 --> 00:14:25,680
yeah so tom says government scientists

411
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are seeing something coming through in

412
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the sky

413
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i don't know if he's talking about if

414
00:14:32,629 --> 00:14:31,519
that was before that happened but yeah

415
00:14:33,750 --> 00:14:32,639
they saw

416
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like it was almost like there was

417
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another world in the sky and these

418
00:14:39,670 --> 00:14:37,680
objects were coming through

419
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um but he says the camera electronics

420
00:14:42,310 --> 00:14:41,120
are missing so he said they saw

421
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something in the sky and then they ran

422
00:14:45,269 --> 00:14:43,920
down they opened up the electronics and

423
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everything was missing i'm like i don't

424
00:14:48,389 --> 00:14:46,560
know what he's talking about i've never

425
00:14:50,230 --> 00:14:48,399
heard that story maybe he's talking

426
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about when the wires were pulled from

427
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the cameras and there was nothing on

428
00:14:56,550 --> 00:14:54,079
camera even the one camera showing it

429
00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:56,560
didn't show it and then he says

430
00:14:59,990 --> 00:14:58,560
scientists were walking on a field and

431
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then they turned around and a cow was

432
00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:01,040
gone

433
00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:03,279
never heard that story i know

434
00:15:07,110 --> 00:15:05,199
i think one of the sons was walking and

435
00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:07,120
there was a cow and then next thing you

436
00:15:10,150 --> 00:15:08,480
know

437
00:15:12,150 --> 00:15:10,160
they turn around the cow was mutilated i

438
00:15:14,069 --> 00:15:12,160
don't think it disappeared and then he

439
00:15:15,829 --> 00:15:14,079
said the cow had two broken legs and

440
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they got person ran in the house to get

441
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a gun and when he came back out it had

442
00:15:21,269 --> 00:15:19,519
four broken legs i had never i've never

443
00:15:22,790 --> 00:15:21,279
heard that story so maybe he has insider

444
00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,800
information or i just

445
00:15:25,509 --> 00:15:24,720
or i'm not remembering

446
00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:25,519
um

447
00:15:28,230 --> 00:15:26,720
talks about maybe it's an issue with

448
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time an issue of moving from here to

449
00:15:32,150 --> 00:15:30,480
there and people see the craft it's just

450
00:15:35,350 --> 00:15:32,160
wild hollywood doesn't need to

451
00:15:38,710 --> 00:15:35,360
sensationalize yeah i know but they do

452
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:38,720
um talks about why mutilations occur and

453
00:15:41,829 --> 00:15:40,480
how maybe they're testing our food

454
00:15:43,430 --> 00:15:41,839
source

455
00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:43,440
um

456
00:15:47,430 --> 00:15:45,519
and tom says he has ideas about that not

457
00:15:49,030 --> 00:15:47,440
facts he doesn't have science in his the

458
00:15:51,430 --> 00:15:49,040
science in his head he heard scientists

459
00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:51,440
discuss tracking our food supply which

460
00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:54,399
is a big part of what christopher

461
00:15:58,230 --> 00:15:56,560
o'brien wrote about in stalking to heard

462
00:15:59,749 --> 00:15:58,240
in his various interviews interviews

463
00:16:01,670 --> 00:15:59,759
with him on youtube

464
00:16:03,829 --> 00:16:01,680
um and colin kelleher wrote a book

465
00:16:05,829 --> 00:16:03,839
related to bovine

466
00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:05,839
not bovine growth hormone that's he

467
00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:09,600
wrote a book about um mad cow disease uh

468
00:16:12,870 --> 00:16:10,720
it's called

469
00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:12,880
mind food i think but you could go type

470
00:16:17,509 --> 00:16:15,040
in colin kelleher on

471
00:16:19,590 --> 00:16:17,519
on you on amazon it's that book and then

472
00:16:21,509 --> 00:16:19,600
hunt for the skinwalker tom says it's

473
00:16:23,030 --> 00:16:21,519
related to genetics and genetics related

474
00:16:24,790 --> 00:16:23,040
to man and

475
00:16:26,310 --> 00:16:24,800
blood samples and the glands and

476
00:16:28,310 --> 00:16:26,320
activities been happening for decades

477
00:16:29,749 --> 00:16:28,320
and decades in that area and cattle

478
00:16:32,069 --> 00:16:29,759
mutilations too and people have been

479
00:16:33,749 --> 00:16:32,079
studied for 30 years and it's happening

480
00:16:35,350 --> 00:16:33,759
in a way where we can't pull it off

481
00:16:36,790 --> 00:16:35,360
talking about supposedly allegedly

482
00:16:40,230 --> 00:16:36,800
organs being pulled out without an

483
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incision which i have not seen

484
00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:49,829
uh what other questions

485
00:16:52,710 --> 00:16:51,440
skinwalker makes oak island look

486
00:16:53,829 --> 00:16:52,720
professional i haven't seen the second

487
00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:53,839
season the first season i was

488
00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:55,600
disappointed with the way they edited it

489
00:16:59,430 --> 00:16:57,120
because i've seen enough editing to no

490
00:17:00,790 --> 00:16:59,440
fake reaction shots and they were there

491
00:17:03,350 --> 00:17:00,800
i saw the first two episodes of

492
00:17:07,110 --> 00:17:03,360
skinwalker this year and it was better

493
00:17:09,909 --> 00:17:07,120
um i don't remember a calf disappearing

494
00:17:11,909 --> 00:17:09,919
i mean there are bulls that were found

495
00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:11,919
in a trailer which they should not have

496
00:17:15,429 --> 00:17:13,280
been able to get in the trailer and i

497
00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:15,439
couldn't miss i could miss

498
00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,630
so

499
00:17:28,390 --> 00:17:25,990
sammy vance says

500
00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:28,400
not a skeptic

501
00:17:32,470 --> 00:17:30,480
by any stretch of the imagination he

502
00:17:33,830 --> 00:17:32,480
wasn't surprised when the uap task force

503
00:17:35,350 --> 00:17:33,840
came out

504
00:17:37,029 --> 00:17:35,360
uh with the report and said he

505
00:17:39,270 --> 00:17:37,039
understood what it was going to be and

506
00:17:41,430 --> 00:17:39,280
somebody texted me

507
00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:41,440
who's aware of how the intelligence

508
00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,679
world works and they said that semivan

509
00:17:47,029 --> 00:17:45,440
nailed this and he and semivin said it's

510
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:47,039
just an outline what they were planning

511
00:17:49,270 --> 00:17:48,000
on doing

512
00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:49,280
they didn't have enough time to make a

513
00:17:54,070 --> 00:17:51,600
substantial report

514
00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:54,080
only 144 incidents that's what semi man

515
00:17:58,150 --> 00:17:56,480
says from the navy he's like oh my god

516
00:18:01,029 --> 00:17:58,160
he goes there are hundreds of thousands

517
00:18:02,549 --> 00:18:01,039
of incidents by credible people i don't

518
00:18:04,150 --> 00:18:02,559
know about hundreds of thousands but

519
00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:04,160
there's definitely i would think tens of

520
00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:05,280
thousands i don't know if anybody

521
00:18:09,190 --> 00:18:06,640
measured maybe there are hundreds of

522
00:18:10,070 --> 00:18:09,200
thousands it seemed like a lot

523
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:10,080
but

524
00:18:13,350 --> 00:18:11,760
since the 40s

525
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,360
he took shots at the air force which was

526
00:18:16,710 --> 00:18:14,960
kind of cool he's like where the hell

527
00:18:18,470 --> 00:18:16,720
has the air force been

528
00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,480
um he goes i don't know why and then he

529
00:18:22,150 --> 00:18:20,000
said well i kind of sort of do but then

530
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:22,160
he doesn't say anything why

531
00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:23,600
most important piece was defense

532
00:18:28,150 --> 00:18:26,320
secretary memo the next day

533
00:18:30,070 --> 00:18:28,160
saying knock it off the cat's out of the

534
00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:30,080
bed we're gonna go after this people

535
00:18:34,470 --> 00:18:31,919
will have to answer questions and money

536
00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:34,480
will be directed to it he said that is

537
00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:42,630
let's see

538
00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:44,870
yeah lavender said it was a the coven

539
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:48,160
hang up was the problem

540
00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:51,039
with the next book of secret machines

541
00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:53,760
war i'm really curious to see how war is

542
00:18:58,070 --> 00:18:55,440
compared to how this interview was

543
00:18:59,750 --> 00:18:58,080
because you watch this interview and

544
00:19:02,150 --> 00:18:59,760
there's no threat they're just trying to

545
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,160
guide humanity into the future and

546
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:04,160
you know and mold us into the next

547
00:19:08,830 --> 00:19:06,720
evolution of mankind i hope so that

548
00:19:11,990 --> 00:19:08,840
would be great

549
00:19:13,669 --> 00:19:12,000
um so jim says the these uap or whatever

550
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,679
the hell they are they're not russian

551
00:19:18,310 --> 00:19:16,000
and they're not chinese and they're not

552
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:18,320
ours they're just not

553
00:19:23,270 --> 00:19:20,640
nothing left except something else what

554
00:19:25,590 --> 00:19:23,280
is it i don't know on the ufo classified

555
00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:25,600
show i said it was a non-human text best

556
00:19:28,950 --> 00:19:27,600
description science doesn't have the

557
00:19:31,350 --> 00:19:28,960
ability to look at this in a way that

558
00:19:33,750 --> 00:19:31,360
they want to look at it not their fault

559
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:33,760
there's no reliability no predictability

560
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:34,960
that's the one thing with science they

561
00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,320
want to have something that's replicable

562
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:38,880
but you can't you know you can't have a

563
00:19:41,830 --> 00:19:40,400
ufo sighting and every day you're gonna

564
00:19:43,430 --> 00:19:41,840
go and see it every day although there

565
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:43,440
are people who believe you can find

566
00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:45,760
patterns like that um jim says semivan

567
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:48,320
says it plays with us teases us cajoles

568
00:19:53,110 --> 00:19:51,120
us he gets close but not too close

569
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,120
some have had close-up encounters up

570
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:54,960
close and personal and others

571
00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:57,760
not and he mentions the navy and i i

572
00:20:03,110 --> 00:20:00,000
think what he was saying

573
00:20:04,870 --> 00:20:03,120
was the 2009 incidents but he didn't say

574
00:20:06,310 --> 00:20:04,880
and i wish they would have pushed them

575
00:20:09,830 --> 00:20:06,320
on that because there's so much debate

576
00:20:13,669 --> 00:20:11,270
yes

577
00:20:16,230 --> 00:20:13,679
artie clark i need to look into i have a

578
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:16,240
i have a doc i have a youtube

579
00:20:21,510 --> 00:20:20,720
interview with him lined up to watch

580
00:20:22,549 --> 00:20:21,520
what

581
00:20:24,470 --> 00:20:22,559
yeah

582
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:24,480
jimmy sammy man said that that the

583
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,080
government and tom said they don't the

584
00:20:29,350 --> 00:20:27,760
government doesn't all know know all

585
00:20:31,909 --> 00:20:29,360
that much about the phenomenon i think

586
00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:31,919
some people the overwhel over

587
00:20:35,029 --> 00:20:33,360
overall

588
00:20:36,710 --> 00:20:35,039
government does not know what's going on

589
00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:36,720
but i think as i've said there are

590
00:20:39,750 --> 00:20:38,240
people within the government that know

591
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:39,760
and he's kind of hinted we'll get to

592
00:20:43,110 --> 00:20:41,280
that i thought that semivan did hint at

593
00:20:44,070 --> 00:20:43,120
that or even said it

594
00:20:46,310 --> 00:20:44,080
uh

595
00:20:48,390 --> 00:20:46,320
uap toronto

596
00:20:50,070 --> 00:20:48,400
some events said he'd be dead before we

597
00:20:51,510 --> 00:20:50,080
get the truth i think people need to

598
00:20:53,270 --> 00:20:51,520
take that seriously just so they get

599
00:20:55,430 --> 00:20:53,280
their expectations down that's why lou

600
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,440
said marathon and

601
00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,440
and once again my friend friend nicole

602
00:21:01,909 --> 00:20:58,880
said you know this is we're doing this

603
00:21:03,430 --> 00:21:01,919
for our kids our kids kids so um i

604
00:21:05,029 --> 00:21:03,440
haven't read chasing shadows i need to

605
00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:05,039
get to the fiction i am not a fiction

606
00:21:09,029 --> 00:21:07,200
guy and i know it's supposedly based on

607
00:21:10,390 --> 00:21:09,039
true you know true events but then you

608
00:21:11,909 --> 00:21:10,400
hear this interview and it seems like

609
00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:11,919
really he just seems like he's just

610
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:13,679
blown off what his advisors have told

611
00:21:17,190 --> 00:21:14,480
him

612
00:21:19,350 --> 00:21:17,200
um

613
00:21:20,230 --> 00:21:19,360
so

614
00:21:21,590 --> 00:21:20,240
yeah

615
00:21:23,669 --> 00:21:21,600
tom said on rogan they're building an

616
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:23,679
anti-gravity machine and he did say he

617
00:21:27,510 --> 00:21:25,200
hinted at that way he said we're saying

618
00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:27,520
we can't compete with uh

619
00:21:31,990 --> 00:21:29,760
we can't compete with lockheed because

620
00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:32,000
of covert and everything happened but

621
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,360
semivans said it would take a hundred

622
00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:35,520
years maybe for us to get that

623
00:21:38,710 --> 00:21:37,200
other people think we already have it

624
00:21:41,830 --> 00:21:38,720
and just have to get it out of black

625
00:21:43,990 --> 00:21:41,840
world i still don't know about that

626
00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,000
and

627
00:21:47,990 --> 00:21:46,720
so sami mentions the navy he says what

628
00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,000
are these uh

629
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:50,000
these 2019 events i guess what is it

630
00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,280
what is what are these events saying

631
00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:52,720
what are they trying to communicate with

632
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,159
us we're trying are they trying to

633
00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:56,559
affect us social culturally which is a

634
00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:57,440
really

635
00:22:01,430 --> 00:21:59,840
that's jacques valet right there i mean

636
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:01,440
that's the control system which he talks

637
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,640
about and that's our best hope

638
00:22:08,230 --> 00:22:06,320
for whatever reason they want to affect

639
00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,240
us you know it may just be for their own

640
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:10,480
personal selfish reasons but if it helps

641
00:22:13,990 --> 00:22:12,240
us in the end that's great you know if

642
00:22:15,830 --> 00:22:14,000
they're living here and they want to

643
00:22:17,669 --> 00:22:15,840
make sure we don't destroy the planet

644
00:22:19,830 --> 00:22:17,679
while we're still here and they're here

645
00:22:22,630 --> 00:22:19,840
they could be shaping us social

646
00:22:24,549 --> 00:22:22,640
culturally with sightings and

647
00:22:27,270 --> 00:22:24,559
close encounters um

648
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:27,280
but i don't know he goes he goes hell

649
00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,440
yeah mutilations are real but we don't

650
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:31,200
know what it means what's happening it's

651
00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,880
a real effect all of us are looking at

652
00:22:36,230 --> 00:22:34,000
it and

653
00:22:37,590 --> 00:22:36,240
um the whole phenomenon back to we're

654
00:22:39,830 --> 00:22:37,600
all looking at it and it changes

655
00:22:40,710 --> 00:22:39,840
cultural cultural norms change things

656
00:22:44,390 --> 00:22:40,720
change

657
00:22:46,470 --> 00:22:44,400
mechanism and he gives a shout out to

658
00:22:50,070 --> 00:22:46,480
valet very difficult road ahead for

659
00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:52,630
clearly not human as we know it that's a

660
00:22:56,149 --> 00:22:54,480
great place that's a great way to say

661
00:22:57,830 --> 00:22:56,159
because it could be human i mean i had

662
00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:57,840
somebody tell me that there are a lot of

663
00:23:02,870 --> 00:23:00,960
this is related to our relatives

664
00:23:04,789 --> 00:23:02,880
this person said a lot of stuff and one

665
00:23:06,549 --> 00:23:04,799
aspect is related to relatives of ours

666
00:23:09,110 --> 00:23:06,559
so if it is then that's

667
00:23:11,230 --> 00:23:09,120
kind of like a human and then jim you

668
00:23:14,310 --> 00:23:11,240
know and we know about lou who said

669
00:23:15,909 --> 00:23:14,320
mankind's plural so

670
00:23:19,590 --> 00:23:15,919
i don't know it's different opinions

671
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:21,830
yeah the the we won't be alive is

672
00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:23,520
something i think it's good to think

673
00:23:27,029 --> 00:23:24,720
like that but

674
00:23:29,350 --> 00:23:27,039
doesn't mean you can't hope for

675
00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:29,360
progress things happen unexpectedly i

676
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:36,630
yeah i know there are supposedly a lot

677
00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,880
of people who can have a lot of people

678
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:40,240
who invented stuff and they say they

679
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,200
were suppressed i mean she had jim

680
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:45,600
help put off being asked by

681
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:48,480
john peterson if he said

682
00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:50,159
steve mcgrier says that you were

683
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:51,440
threatened you and your family were

684
00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:53,039
threatened if you kept working on this

685
00:23:56,630 --> 00:23:54,799
technology and

686
00:23:58,630 --> 00:23:56,640
put off nervously said

687
00:23:59,909 --> 00:23:58,640
that's not true it was really a weird

688
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:59,919
you ever get to see that it's a weird

689
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:02,480
moment anyway it's greer so

690
00:24:06,310 --> 00:24:04,320
why why would peterson bring that up

691
00:24:08,070 --> 00:24:06,320
though peterson knows grier i mean they

692
00:24:09,590 --> 00:24:08,080
had a falling out over the disagreement

693
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,600
with the

694
00:24:12,149 --> 00:24:10,799
um

695
00:24:14,070 --> 00:24:12,159
the cia

696
00:24:17,110 --> 00:24:14,080
briefing with

697
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:17,120
in 1993 with james woolsey you know and

698
00:24:20,070 --> 00:24:18,720
that i have no doubt that happened and

699
00:24:21,750 --> 00:24:20,080
greer was invited you don't invite

700
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:21,760
steven grier to talk about

701
00:24:25,430 --> 00:24:24,000
what's for dinner if you're the head of

702
00:24:27,269 --> 00:24:25,440
the cia

703
00:24:29,430 --> 00:24:27,279
more semivan he said government

704
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:29,440
government perspective on this

705
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:31,120
and if if i get back to your questions

706
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,600
and i and i missed it ask it again

707
00:24:38,149 --> 00:24:35,760
as an intelligence officer for a long

708
00:24:39,669 --> 00:24:38,159
time he goes talks about 1945 you know

709
00:24:41,430 --> 00:24:39,679
since the beginning this has been going

710
00:24:44,070 --> 00:24:41,440
on back to religions mentions the

711
00:24:45,669 --> 00:24:44,080
twining memo in 47. this is real and not

712
00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:45,679
fictitious

713
00:24:49,590 --> 00:24:47,360
you know he says mentions project sign

714
00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:49,600
grudge blue book condon

715
00:24:55,430 --> 00:24:53,990
connie came out and they said listen

716
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:55,440
this is all nonsense we're not going to

717
00:24:59,750 --> 00:24:57,760
study ufos anymore and and semi-man said

718
00:25:00,870 --> 00:24:59,760
that is absolute nonsense that's another

719
00:25:02,470 --> 00:25:00,880
great thing he said yeah it went

720
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:02,480
underground

721
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:04,240
he said no way with the air force and

722
00:25:07,430 --> 00:25:06,320
the intel community not study this

723
00:25:08,390 --> 00:25:07,440
there's no way they're going to give up

724
00:25:10,470 --> 00:25:08,400
on this

725
00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:10,480
it's a very real phenomena i don't think

726
00:25:14,070 --> 00:25:12,159
it's a threat he said that was a big

727
00:25:16,149 --> 00:25:14,080
deal so he doesn't think it's a threat

728
00:25:17,430 --> 00:25:16,159
he said it melinda leslie said that he

729
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:17,440
said that so you know melinda's

730
00:25:22,470 --> 00:25:20,480
reporting accurate information

731
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,480
other people said well let him define

732
00:25:25,990 --> 00:25:24,480
specifically what it is as a threat you

733
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:26,000
know what is he talking about let's hear

734
00:25:30,149 --> 00:25:27,520
him say it i said i want to hear him say

735
00:25:31,669 --> 00:25:30,159
it he said it so it's like okay

736
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,679
i hope he's right

737
00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:32,960
but i know there are other people that

738
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:34,320
think differently

739
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,520
um

740
00:25:40,470 --> 00:25:38,159
there may be some of this in deep black

741
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:40,480
programs that are not you know telling

742
00:25:43,269 --> 00:25:41,919
you know that means they're not ignoring

743
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:43,279
it they're studying it in deep black

744
00:25:46,789 --> 00:25:44,720
programs which makes us think if they

745
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:46,799
have 70 or 80 years of data you're

746
00:25:49,510 --> 00:25:47,760
telling me

747
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:49,520
like he said it's been seriously studied

748
00:25:54,630 --> 00:25:52,480
for for the last 70 or 80 years they

749
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,640
they got to have some better idea than

750
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:57,279
we do they have to they can't i can't be

751
00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:00,000
you know they still may not have motive

752
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:02,159
but they have to know you know at least

753
00:26:06,950 --> 00:26:03,840
what these beings some of these means

754
00:26:10,470 --> 00:26:06,960
look like if we have crash retrievals

755
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:10,480
um let's see your questions

756
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:12,640
yes uh this person meant relatives to

757
00:26:16,230 --> 00:26:14,000
humans

758
00:26:19,110 --> 00:26:16,240
our relatives

759
00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:21,110
he has met brandon i didn't know that he

760
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,320
talked about meeting someone with a ton

761
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,000
of money while being at skinwalk i have

762
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:26,559
not heard that

763
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:27,440
jim

764
00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:31,919
healing the blind we'll get to that uh

765
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:33,520
people being healed and then tom said

766
00:26:37,350 --> 00:26:35,120
you know that happens in all religions

767
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,360
that's kind of what michael thinks

768
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:39,120
um definitely thought of michael when i

769
00:26:42,310 --> 00:26:40,640
heard that

770
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:42,320
i don't know exactly when his surgery is

771
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:44,240
going on it could be now i didn't hear

772
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:46,080
back from him

773
00:26:50,710 --> 00:26:48,880
go make coffee julie

774
00:26:54,549 --> 00:26:50,720
i have to eat soon but we're going

775
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,830
where is it

776
00:27:01,430 --> 00:26:59,750
so he brings up project stargate which

777
00:27:03,669 --> 00:27:01,440
was the remote viewing program and that

778
00:27:04,710 --> 00:27:03,679
program started when we found out the

779
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:04,720
russians

780
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,799
i know any lieberwicz goes further back

781
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:09,039
but i was introduced to it learning that

782
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:10,799
the russians were doing psychic

783
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,039
experiments so we needed to find out

784
00:27:17,110 --> 00:27:14,799
could the russians spy on us and get

785
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:17,120
data you know psychically so we started

786
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:19,520
our own program with

787
00:27:24,630 --> 00:27:22,799
hal put off and engel swann and i think

788
00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:24,640
elisando says put off i'm not sure if

789
00:27:27,190 --> 00:27:25,600
that's the

790
00:27:30,549 --> 00:27:27,200
right pronunciation i always said put

791
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:30,559
off uh ingoswan and russell targ and

792
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:32,559
other people that are mad that they're

793
00:27:36,230 --> 00:27:34,880
not mentioned i forget the one guy's

794
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:36,240
name he always gets mad that he's not

795
00:27:38,870 --> 00:27:37,600
mentioned in the beginning and i forgot

796
00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,880
his name

797
00:27:43,029 --> 00:27:41,440
um he talks about other tech crazy tech

798
00:27:45,350 --> 00:27:43,039
you didn't even know exists but does

799
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:45,360
exist and other countries are working on

800
00:27:48,149 --> 00:27:46,960
it if you tell your friends you tell

801
00:27:49,909 --> 00:27:48,159
your neighbor in other words we can't

802
00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,919
let ufo information out that's what he's

803
00:27:52,470 --> 00:27:51,279
saying he says and don't blame he

804
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:52,480
doesn't blame the government for not

805
00:27:55,830 --> 00:27:54,320
wanting to share it

806
00:27:57,750 --> 00:27:55,840
um

807
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:57,760
skeptics say i don't know what it is

808
00:28:01,190 --> 00:27:59,760
that's fine we have no problem when

809
00:28:02,789 --> 00:28:01,200
skeptics say that that's not what the

810
00:28:05,430 --> 00:28:02,799
skeptics that we have a problem with are

811
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,440
saying they're saying it's glare it's a

812
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:07,679
it's it's a glitch in the new software

813
00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:09,600
it's just ignorant statements especially

814
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,200
when people are seeing it with their own

815
00:28:13,990 --> 00:28:13,200
eyes or on fleer

816
00:28:16,710 --> 00:28:14,000
um

817
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:16,720
yeah i do want to see more of the

818
00:28:21,990 --> 00:28:18,799
the uh semi uh the

819
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:22,000
fravor dietrich and slate visual

820
00:28:25,909 --> 00:28:23,039
sighting

821
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:25,919
and the people in the hawkeye um

822
00:28:30,149 --> 00:28:28,320
but we don't we have so little cases to

823
00:28:32,310 --> 00:28:30,159
even know the details or hear from these

824
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:32,320
people i'm sure i hope those cases exist

825
00:28:35,750 --> 00:28:34,000
i mean i don't know what they saw with

826
00:28:37,510 --> 00:28:35,760
this 23-minute video if it was visually

827
00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:37,520
or just one instrument

828
00:28:40,710 --> 00:28:38,480
um

829
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,720
he says skeptics

830
00:28:44,070 --> 00:28:42,159
tell them they don't know what it is

831
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:44,080
that's fine just don't tell me it

832
00:28:47,029 --> 00:28:45,840
belongs to china or russia that's

833
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:47,039
nonsense

834
00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:48,720
of course you know what people are going

835
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:51,279
to say that's jim semivan

836
00:28:55,430 --> 00:28:54,080
it's the psyop it's it's russia or china

837
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:55,440
they know what it is and like i have my

838
00:28:59,269 --> 00:28:57,440
own source who said if it was china or

839
00:29:01,110 --> 00:28:59,279
russia we would tell you and then people

840
00:29:02,470 --> 00:29:01,120
are like no they wouldn't

841
00:29:04,630 --> 00:29:02,480
so that's semivan if you think he's

842
00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,640
lying he's he's the expert liar all

843
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:05,760
right

844
00:29:09,269 --> 00:29:07,200
he says when you've been read in you

845
00:29:11,029 --> 00:29:09,279
know that it's not china or russia i

846
00:29:13,430 --> 00:29:11,039
like that too

847
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:13,440
um

848
00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:20,149
it's it's going too fast i can't keep up

849
00:29:28,310 --> 00:29:26,070
let's see tom kind of made it seem like

850
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,320
he doesn't know much like us and they

851
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:30,480
know more but not that much more well

852
00:29:35,029 --> 00:29:32,880
and answering about recovered bodies

853
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:35,039
somebody knows somebody knows that we've

854
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,720
had bodies if we have bodies i think we

855
00:29:39,590 --> 00:29:38,240
do i don't know but

856
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:39,600
i mean you know somebody knows i don't

857
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:41,279
know how many people know

858
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:42,559
um

859
00:29:45,750 --> 00:29:44,399
does jackie gleason know or did he know

860
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,760
you know the whole nixon story which i

861
00:29:50,630 --> 00:29:47,440
love i don't know

862
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:50,640
it's a great story told by his ex-wife

863
00:29:54,470 --> 00:29:52,559
kalisa never spoke about it as far as i

864
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:54,480
know

865
00:29:59,909 --> 00:29:57,279
uh any thoughts on brand new researchers

866
00:30:01,909 --> 00:29:59,919
out of nowhere on ufo twitter

867
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,919
yeah it's really weird new people i have

868
00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,240
no problem with new people i just wish

869
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:05,840
some are doing research and learning

870
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:07,440
about cases but it's great it's it's

871
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,399
great to learn on the fly but then

872
00:30:13,350 --> 00:30:12,080
there's some me the last couple of weeks

873
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,360
have been stirring up [\h__\h] and i

874
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:14,880
understand the whole jacobs thing

875
00:30:18,549 --> 00:30:17,200
because people are mixed on that and i

876
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:18,559
understand that i understand how it

877
00:30:20,870 --> 00:30:19,760
looks and

878
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,880
i thought it

879
00:30:24,149 --> 00:30:22,640
i didn't know i didn't really form a

880
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:24,159
really strong opinion until i started

881
00:30:27,190 --> 00:30:25,840
looking at the whole transcript and then

882
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:27,200
i spoke to somebody and there's more to

883
00:30:31,830 --> 00:30:30,000
come out but i understand people's views

884
00:30:33,830 --> 00:30:31,840
on that i just don't understand why

885
00:30:35,190 --> 00:30:33,840
people think

886
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:35,200
you know an experiencer who had

887
00:30:39,669 --> 00:30:37,440
something sexually done or allegedly can

888
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:39,679
expect to go to the police i mean

889
00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:41,279
i know enough about sexual assault to

890
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:43,200
know that women and men do not want to

891
00:30:45,990 --> 00:30:44,720
go to police it's not an easy thing to

892
00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:46,000
report i mean

893
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,240
the sex kid go i mean the rape kit going

894
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,799
through that it's like

895
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:52,799
very invasive and and a lot of times

896
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:54,559
they're not believed then they become

897
00:30:57,669 --> 00:30:55,840
the ones who are focused of the

898
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:57,679
accusations did you lie did you go out

899
00:31:00,549 --> 00:30:58,960
late at night why did you go out that

900
00:31:03,110 --> 00:31:00,559
kind of stuff but i won't get into that

901
00:31:05,029 --> 00:31:03,120
unless people ask um

902
00:31:06,470 --> 00:31:05,039
tom says

903
00:31:09,509 --> 00:31:06,480
he didn't think they were coming from

904
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:09,519
space yeah he did say that so but they

905
00:31:12,149 --> 00:31:10,799
also talked about coming from different

906
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:12,159
times where time goes backwards and

907
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:14,240
forwards and he didn't

908
00:31:19,110 --> 00:31:16,559
say atlantis um

909
00:31:20,789 --> 00:31:19,120
ultra-terrestrial that

910
00:31:21,669 --> 00:31:20,799
i've heard from other people

911
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,679
um

912
00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:23,440
which i think would just be based on

913
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:25,600
here on this planet native to this

914
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:27,600
planet

915
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:30,000
um and like i said it's hard to keep up

916
00:31:33,990 --> 00:31:31,679
with everything

917
00:31:36,149 --> 00:31:34,000
the one big thing bug how do you not and

918
00:31:37,830 --> 00:31:36,159
unless semi-van is going to these people

919
00:31:39,990 --> 00:31:37,840
listen i will do this interview but you

920
00:31:42,070 --> 00:31:40,000
cannot ask me about my experience in

921
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:42,080
college which according to grant cameron

922
00:31:45,669 --> 00:31:43,919
was a classic abduction where there was

923
00:31:48,389 --> 00:31:45,679
a little blood on his wife

924
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:48,399
she got a little cut so

925
00:31:54,070 --> 00:31:52,399
if you if you weren't giving given the

926
00:31:55,430 --> 00:31:54,080
you know the information not to ask him

927
00:31:57,750 --> 00:31:55,440
how do you not ask him about his

928
00:32:00,230 --> 00:31:57,760
encounter i don't get that let's assume

929
00:32:01,669 --> 00:32:00,240
let's ask we can ask the guy who hopes

930
00:32:03,430 --> 00:32:01,679
the answers i don't know about the other

931
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,440
guy but the theory of everything guy he

932
00:32:06,870 --> 00:32:05,360
can he can answer us we can say you guys

933
00:32:08,870 --> 00:32:06,880
told not to ask about that because you

934
00:32:10,389 --> 00:32:08,880
have to ask

935
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:10,399
um

936
00:32:13,509 --> 00:32:12,000
yeah julie this

937
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:13,519
there's a lot more that people don't

938
00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:14,399
know and

939
00:32:18,549 --> 00:32:15,919
hopefully within the next year that's

940
00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:18,559
all i'm gonna say um still still not a

941
00:32:26,070 --> 00:32:23,909
yeah you said that you spoke to emma and

942
00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:26,080
i was hesitant to share that because it

943
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:27,679
was backing up my point of view but i

944
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:28,399
can't

945
00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:30,640
prove that you guys who talk to her i'm

946
00:32:33,990 --> 00:32:32,799
trying to talk to her

947
00:32:35,669 --> 00:32:34,000
because

948
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,679
i really don't have a dog in the fight i

949
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:37,840
mean i it just made me mad that people

950
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,120
weren't reading the whole transcript

951
00:32:42,389 --> 00:32:41,200
before commenting that was the big deal

952
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:42,399
and then i learned more and then we

953
00:32:45,909 --> 00:32:44,240
won't get into it but

954
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:45,919
i'll talk to her you know

955
00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,840
i don't i'm not a big jacobs fan i never

956
00:32:50,149 --> 00:32:48,960
i never even checked the guy out i

957
00:32:51,830 --> 00:32:50,159
thought he was like i said he was

958
00:32:53,830 --> 00:32:51,840
arrogant that was my first impersonation

959
00:32:55,269 --> 00:32:53,840
but i impression but

960
00:32:58,549 --> 00:32:55,279
other people who have spoken to him have

961
00:33:04,710 --> 00:32:58,559
said very good things about him um

962
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:06,549
we are relatives if they're traveling in

963
00:33:10,789 --> 00:33:07,840
time and that's one of the things i was

964
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,799
told by somebody who incredible person

965
00:33:14,149 --> 00:33:12,240
in our community talked about time

966
00:33:16,789 --> 00:33:14,159
travel

967
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:18,870
gotta stop saying um

968
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:24,389
yeah i don't

969
00:33:27,590 --> 00:33:25,919
we'll have to ask about that it really

970
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:27,600
bothers me that you didn't people don't

971
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,760
ask semi-bent about his experience i'm

972
00:33:34,470 --> 00:33:31,440
in dc and plan to go to anjali's press

973
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,480
conference does that seem legit to me

974
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,559
uh i think her background is legit i

975
00:33:39,990 --> 00:33:38,480
spoke to the person who verified her

976
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:40,000
background so that checks out but her

977
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:42,640
experience i have no idea i mean she has

978
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:44,159
people in her family that said they had

979
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,320
polar guys activity okay let's hear from

980
00:33:50,230 --> 00:33:48,480
them if she had poltergeist activity and

981
00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,240
all of them experienced it it would be

982
00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:51,279
it would

983
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,880
give more credence to her experience

984
00:33:55,830 --> 00:33:54,240
because there's a connection between the

985
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,840
two um

986
00:33:58,950 --> 00:33:57,279
i don't know i've seen her i saw her

987
00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:58,960
first channeling session it wasn't great

988
00:34:02,870 --> 00:34:00,880
but you know credit to her for going out

989
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,880
there and doing it

990
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:04,480
some events personal experience and what

991
00:34:07,669 --> 00:34:06,080
he thought about the blood cells were

992
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:07,679
two of the most common questions yeah

993
00:34:13,349 --> 00:34:09,040
that would have been a good one too i

994
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:13,359
think i think bledsoe is part of

995
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:14,399
of the

996
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:16,800
making contact event the last i checked

997
00:34:20,069 --> 00:34:18,399
he was

998
00:34:22,950 --> 00:34:20,079
and i'll have an update on that whole

999
00:34:25,270 --> 00:34:22,960
thing in my participation

1000
00:34:26,869 --> 00:34:25,280
quote unquote with that back to what

1001
00:34:28,389 --> 00:34:26,879
they talked about tom said there was a

1002
00:34:29,589 --> 00:34:28,399
big wig and i got messed up on this it

1003
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:29,599
was hard for me to keep up and then i

1004
00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:31,119
had to pause it

1005
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:32,240
you know the person who told him you

1006
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:33,679
know there's no evidence this is real

1007
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:34,879
and tom went outside and there are two

1008
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,560
guys who are working underneath that

1009
00:34:41,430 --> 00:34:38,399
person talk that wanted to talk about it

1010
00:34:43,030 --> 00:34:41,440
for an hour with tom um some people are

1011
00:34:44,550 --> 00:34:43,040
more open-minded than other others and

1012
00:34:45,750 --> 00:34:44,560
then he said the jason's did i

1013
00:34:46,950 --> 00:34:45,760
understand what he was i don't know what

1014
00:34:49,669 --> 00:34:46,960
he's talking about maybe that's

1015
00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:49,679
something obvious i'm missing

1016
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,280
um he said there's incredible science at

1017
00:34:55,030 --> 00:34:53,119
lockheed and all those places you know

1018
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,040
we can use them you know they chose the

1019
00:34:58,150 --> 00:34:56,480
best and the brightest trying to figure

1020
00:34:59,670 --> 00:34:58,160
this out he's talking about

1021
00:35:02,550 --> 00:34:59,680
who could keep their mouth shut because

1022
00:35:03,670 --> 00:35:02,560
of national national security

1023
00:35:04,390 --> 00:35:03,680
they weren't

1024
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,400
and

1025
00:35:07,750 --> 00:35:06,240
they weren't going to get oh he thought

1026
00:35:09,510 --> 00:35:07,760
they weren't going to get anything from

1027
00:35:11,589 --> 00:35:09,520
tom so it really didn't benefit him that

1028
00:35:12,790 --> 00:35:11,599
much to talk to him but they still did

1029
00:35:14,230 --> 00:35:12,800
and then other people are going to say

1030
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,240
of course they benefited because they

1031
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:16,640
fed him misinformation we're never gonna

1032
00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:18,320
get away from that it's you can always

1033
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:20,560
throw out the disinformation

1034
00:35:23,349 --> 00:35:22,000
angle

1035
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,359
he spoke to the

1036
00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:25,359
tom spoke to the former head of the task

1037
00:35:29,750 --> 00:35:27,760
force who i have not been able to learn

1038
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:29,760
his name

1039
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:32,160
and asked what's the biggest change now

1040
00:35:35,910 --> 00:35:33,040
that we've

1041
00:35:37,349 --> 00:35:35,920
mainstream and this guy said the same

1042
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:37,359
thing as lou for the first time ever we

1043
00:35:40,950 --> 00:35:39,920
can talk about ufos outside of a skiff

1044
00:35:42,310 --> 00:35:40,960
you know

1045
00:35:43,750 --> 00:35:42,320
in the pentagon

1046
00:35:46,550 --> 00:35:43,760
and then the three days what kept you up

1047
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:46,560
for three days and you won't say

1048
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:48,000
and then he said he skipped it and said

1049
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,680
i learned from jim how to parse

1050
00:35:54,150 --> 00:35:51,359
information learn how to be skeptical

1051
00:35:56,310 --> 00:35:54,160
put pieces of information together

1052
00:35:58,150 --> 00:35:56,320
uh they're big thinkers i'm not talking

1053
00:36:02,390 --> 00:35:58,160
about um it's not i don't know if you

1054
00:36:04,069 --> 00:36:02,400
talk about the people around semiband

1055
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:04,079
or the people who study ufos that we

1056
00:36:07,910 --> 00:36:05,440
don't know their names he talks they

1057
00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:07,920
study patterns and analyzing over time

1058
00:36:15,190 --> 00:36:12,790
and then he gets back to the question of

1059
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:15,200
you know why was he kept it up at night

1060
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:16,800
he said because it was just

1061
00:36:20,390 --> 00:36:18,720
understanding the stakes you know once

1062
00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:20,400
he realized this was real it kept him up

1063
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,680
at night

1064
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:23,440
although his original statement did not

1065
00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:24,720
sound like that it sounded like he was

1066
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:27,359
talking about something specific

1067
00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:28,640
you know when he said knowing the three

1068
00:36:32,069 --> 00:36:30,079
videos were real when they when he got

1069
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:32,079
those was a really big deal for him and

1070
00:36:37,119 --> 00:36:42,390
twitter nicole is

1071
00:36:48,310 --> 00:36:45,270
a minefield

1072
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,320
the last couple of days oh my god

1073
00:36:53,510 --> 00:36:51,119
wait till i talk way too loud

1074
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:53,520
for never mind it's going to talk about

1075
00:36:57,750 --> 00:36:55,040
rich ricker

1076
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:57,760
richard dodie which always gets twitter

1077
00:37:01,270 --> 00:36:59,280
going because i see comments from dodie

1078
00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:01,280
that i don't even comment to

1079
00:37:08,390 --> 00:37:04,000
must not talk to dodie

1080
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,190
and forgot his name

1081
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,359
the temple guy um

1082
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:15,680
during a blank anyway

1083
00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:17,920
tom in the threat he goes those were my

1084
00:37:20,470 --> 00:37:19,359
words you really you know here for a

1085
00:37:22,069 --> 00:37:20,480
long time

1086
00:37:23,670 --> 00:37:22,079
showing up in bed you know he says those

1087
00:37:26,630 --> 00:37:23,680
were my words i'm like really those were

1088
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,640
your words because it surely sounded

1089
00:37:30,550 --> 00:37:28,560
like he was getting that from advisors

1090
00:37:32,630 --> 00:37:30,560
or informants that kind of like was a

1091
00:37:34,390 --> 00:37:32,640
cop out to me but i need to go back and

1092
00:37:36,550 --> 00:37:34,400
look at exact words because he talked

1093
00:37:38,069 --> 00:37:36,560
about threat i mean he said i'm pretty

1094
00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:38,079
sure he said he learned from somebody

1095
00:37:42,310 --> 00:37:39,040
that

1096
00:37:43,190 --> 00:37:42,320
ufos feed off of our negativity and they

1097
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:43,200
you know

1098
00:37:47,589 --> 00:37:45,280
love is a nuclear missile to the

1099
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:47,599
straight heart of the ufo and that i

1100
00:37:52,550 --> 00:37:50,320
don't think that came from him so he's

1101
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:52,560
backtracking big time if i have to see

1102
00:37:56,390 --> 00:37:54,800
where that came from um

1103
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:56,400
he said ufos have been here for a long

1104
00:37:59,589 --> 00:37:57,920
time they show up in bedrooms they show

1105
00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,599
up in front of f-18s they show up on

1106
00:38:02,630 --> 00:38:00,960
petroglyphs

1107
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:02,640
obviously here for a reason doing

1108
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:05,440
something and having an influence

1109
00:38:10,550 --> 00:38:08,000
on us and maybe just having an influence

1110
00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,560
on influence on where we went up wind up

1111
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:12,880
or or this is where you got a little

1112
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:15,599
negative suppressing us so where they

1113
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,599
can take advantage of something so

1114
00:38:23,670 --> 00:38:22,079
that wouldn't be a threat but if they're

1115
00:38:24,630 --> 00:38:23,680
you know if they're taking advantage of

1116
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:24,640
us

1117
00:38:27,910 --> 00:38:26,160
depends on what they're doing and if

1118
00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:27,920
it's for their benefit not ours that's

1119
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,520
something we would like to know i would

1120
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:31,599
think if we can stop it maybe maybe we

1121
00:38:33,910 --> 00:38:32,640
can't

1122
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:33,920
um

1123
00:38:37,030 --> 00:38:35,520
you know this this thing is visiting us

1124
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:37,040
it's not being forthright about its

1125
00:38:40,790 --> 00:38:38,800
intent and that's what eric davis always

1126
00:38:42,069 --> 00:38:40,800
says you know they're here but they

1127
00:38:43,349 --> 00:38:42,079
don't tell us why they don't tell us

1128
00:38:46,310 --> 00:38:43,359
what they're doing and

1129
00:38:47,190 --> 00:38:46,320
eric's opinion on ufos is all negative

1130
00:38:48,710 --> 00:38:47,200
um

1131
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,720
he may be totally wrong i don't know

1132
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:50,720
it's an opinion he you know

1133
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:51,920
he's very

1134
00:38:56,069 --> 00:38:54,800
hesitant to give any facts except that

1135
00:38:57,990 --> 00:38:56,079
something physical is here and he

1136
00:39:02,390 --> 00:38:58,000
believes are off world

1137
00:39:06,870 --> 00:39:03,750
let me see if i can understand my notes

1138
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:06,880
the way they the government thinks

1139
00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:08,720
hear about encounters

1140
00:39:12,710 --> 00:39:10,000
they i don't know what the hell i wrote

1141
00:39:13,670 --> 00:39:12,720
there um tom says he was out in colorado

1142
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:13,680
springs

1143
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,040
and with generals they were shooting the

1144
00:39:19,349 --> 00:39:17,280
[\h__\h] and talks about his mom and jesus

1145
00:39:21,990 --> 00:39:19,359
and how she believes in jesus and even

1146
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:22,000
if she saw jesus in the room

1147
00:39:24,630 --> 00:39:23,599
she would have a heart attack meaning

1148
00:39:25,990 --> 00:39:24,640
you know he doesn't understand how

1149
00:39:28,630 --> 00:39:26,000
people have these encounters and they

1150
00:39:30,790 --> 00:39:28,640
see it how they you know don't flip out

1151
00:39:32,230 --> 00:39:30,800
that's what danny sheehan talks about

1152
00:39:34,550 --> 00:39:32,240
learning the

1153
00:39:36,550 --> 00:39:34,560
the breathing method the stanford graph

1154
00:39:39,349 --> 00:39:36,560
speed breathing method which they talked

1155
00:39:41,270 --> 00:39:39,359
to one experiencer and supposedly she

1156
00:39:44,069 --> 00:39:41,280
learned it she got calm she saw the

1157
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:44,079
being they were like oh she's calm we

1158
00:39:48,190 --> 00:39:46,000
can take her to see her hybrid children

1159
00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:48,200
so it's like our child so that's a story

1160
00:39:54,150 --> 00:39:51,280
danny sheehan told we all have to learn

1161
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:54,160
the stanford stanislav graf method of

1162
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,680
breathing it's a hypotropic

1163
00:40:01,750 --> 00:39:59,599
breathing i think

1164
00:40:03,670 --> 00:40:01,760
um his mom supports him and doesn't

1165
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:03,680
think it's evil

1166
00:40:08,630 --> 00:40:07,200
unlike my father who said ufos are

1167
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,640
demonic

1168
00:40:13,190 --> 00:40:10,720
and when my mom heard about heaven's

1169
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:13,200
gate committing suicide she asked me if

1170
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:15,200
i knew those people

1171
00:40:19,510 --> 00:40:17,040
which was kind of funny i'm like no i

1172
00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:19,520
did not know heaven's gate not an occult

1173
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:21,839
mom

1174
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,270
yeah tom was

1175
00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,359
saying they're already here which he did

1176
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,280
say a couple of times and

1177
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:33,040
threat versus intent i don't know if

1178
00:40:35,510 --> 00:40:34,160
they're a threat i don't know if they're

1179
00:40:37,589 --> 00:40:35,520
what their intent is i don't know it

1180
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:37,599
could be both it could be neither

1181
00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:39,200
like i said i hope semi-van is right and

1182
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,560
it's not a threat we don't have to worry

1183
00:40:43,589 --> 00:40:42,079
about everything they're trying to shape

1184
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:43,599
humanity for the future and help us

1185
00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:45,920
evolve to the next next level of human

1186
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,200
being

1187
00:40:50,829 --> 00:40:49,040
so we can take our place in the cosmos

1188
00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:50,839
with our

1189
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:54,319
mankinds um

1190
00:40:57,430 --> 00:40:56,160
any anyone know where to catch this long

1191
00:40:59,030 --> 00:40:57,440
interview is talking about yeah i don't

1192
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:59,040
know the name of everybody else knows

1193
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,480
the name there you go brian keating

1194
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:02,319
channel

1195
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,839
i also have i haven't linked on my

1196
00:41:07,349 --> 00:41:05,280
twitter

1197
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:07,359
um and they talked about sarah scholes

1198
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,000
got a question in um

1199
00:41:13,589 --> 00:41:12,319
but first he said once we learn what

1200
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:13,599
these things are we'll merge

1201
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:15,920
metaphysical consciousness type of

1202
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:18,400
science with normal science that's kind

1203
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:21,040
of like the spiritual science

1204
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:22,960
melding although some people don't like

1205
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:25,760
the word spiritual but metaphysical

1206
00:41:29,190 --> 00:41:27,760
i mean telepathy remote viewing whatever

1207
00:41:30,870 --> 00:41:29,200
you want to call that

1208
00:41:33,750 --> 00:41:30,880
i mean there's science being done on

1209
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,760
that but we need the mainstream involved

1210
00:41:37,910 --> 00:41:35,520
everybody will be able to keep the

1211
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,920
things they love that's tom's view

1212
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:39,520
all religions will be able to keep

1213
00:41:43,510 --> 00:41:41,280
everything the father son and holy

1214
00:41:44,870 --> 00:41:43,520
spirit will see it in a new way it'll be

1215
00:41:46,710 --> 00:41:44,880
connected to our connection in the

1216
00:41:49,349 --> 00:41:46,720
conscious into consciousness

1217
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:49,359
doesn't think religion will crumble

1218
00:41:52,710 --> 00:41:50,800
yeah well

1219
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:52,720
it depends on what it depends on what

1220
00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:54,640
the truth is depends on how it unfolds

1221
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:55,520
you know

1222
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:57,520
maybe not crumble but could take a major

1223
00:42:00,630 --> 00:41:58,880
hit

1224
00:42:03,190 --> 00:42:00,640
tells his mom that all religions have

1225
00:42:05,430 --> 00:42:03,200
stories about healing the blind because

1226
00:42:07,270 --> 00:42:05,440
as you know we talked about michael so

1227
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:07,280
tom says it's not just one religion that

1228
00:42:11,670 --> 00:42:08,720
has that story

1229
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:11,680
and he says it's physics which i agree

1230
00:42:15,670 --> 00:42:13,680
whatever's going on there's some aspect

1231
00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:15,680
of physics how it's going on

1232
00:42:18,230 --> 00:42:17,040
how the hell do we figure that out it

1233
00:42:19,510 --> 00:42:18,240
would be nice

1234
00:42:21,750 --> 00:42:19,520
um

1235
00:42:24,470 --> 00:42:21,760
sarah scholes had a question

1236
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:24,480
and i'm not a sarah skulls fan a skulls

1237
00:42:28,550 --> 00:42:26,880
fan she's written some articles talking

1238
00:42:31,829 --> 00:42:28,560
about the

1239
00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:31,839
fleet that was with the

1240
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:33,760
gimbal saying how do we know after the

1241
00:42:38,950 --> 00:42:36,240
video of the gimbal cuts off it just

1242
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:38,960
wasn't a fleet of danish flyers

1243
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:42,400
yeah our if f-18s were were fooled by a

1244
00:42:46,630 --> 00:42:44,240
fleet of danish flyers in there whatever

1245
00:42:49,510 --> 00:42:46,640
planes they have i mean okay anyway she

1246
00:42:50,870 --> 00:42:49,520
said how does lou and melon leaving

1247
00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:50,880
affect the mission i don't know if she

1248
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:52,240
paid for that question or they got it

1249
00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:53,920
because they know her but fine question

1250
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:56,319
that's fine and tom said

1251
00:43:00,390 --> 00:42:58,640
uh the pandemic hurt

1252
00:43:02,470 --> 00:43:00,400
more government folks want to be part of

1253
00:43:04,309 --> 00:43:02,480
ttsa but there aren't enough slots

1254
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:04,319
probably because they can't pay them

1255
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:06,560
um that's that's one thing i always

1256
00:43:11,190 --> 00:43:09,119
heard behind the scenes always funding

1257
00:43:12,950 --> 00:43:11,200
funding funding is a major problem at

1258
00:43:14,630 --> 00:43:12,960
one point money was supposed to come

1259
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:14,640
through it didn't come through tom

1260
00:43:19,510 --> 00:43:16,319
referenced that and just everything fell

1261
00:43:20,950 --> 00:43:19,520
apart all their plans um

1262
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:20,960
and he said it put them in quicksand and

1263
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,440
just cut you know waiting

1264
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:25,200
and that's why their focus was

1265
00:43:28,950 --> 00:43:27,040
entertainment they were doing well with

1266
00:43:30,309 --> 00:43:28,960
you know unidentified so they focused on

1267
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:30,319
that

1268
00:43:34,150 --> 00:43:31,760
whether or not there was some falling

1269
00:43:35,750 --> 00:43:34,160
out with lou and melon and lou was tired

1270
00:43:37,030 --> 00:43:35,760
of being you know kept from doing

1271
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:37,040
interviews that could have played a role

1272
00:43:40,870 --> 00:43:38,079
too

1273
00:43:43,030 --> 00:43:40,880
um

1274
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:43,040
couldn't keep up with lockheed

1275
00:43:45,670 --> 00:43:44,560
oh that's what he said so it's like yeah

1276
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:45,680
he says we couldn't keep up with

1277
00:43:49,270 --> 00:43:47,119
lockheed well i don't think you ever

1278
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:49,280
were a comp in competition with lockheed

1279
00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,680
you know let's be serious but maybe if

1280
00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:52,960
they had gotten the funding and could

1281
00:43:56,309 --> 00:43:54,640
hire the right people and they had the

1282
00:43:59,750 --> 00:43:56,319
right connections to the black world

1283
00:44:01,109 --> 00:43:59,760
that allegedly this technology exists

1284
00:44:02,230 --> 00:44:01,119
maybe they would have made progress on

1285
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:02,240
that end

1286
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:04,240
and he saw says hal still working on

1287
00:44:08,950 --> 00:44:06,079
things and he mentions very briefly he

1288
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:08,960
hints at the crota with the army

1289
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,280
and how that was all affected by

1290
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:13,200
um

1291
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:15,200
kovid

1292
00:44:18,069 --> 00:44:16,960
and mentions you know melon working on

1293
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:18,079
the scenes with congress and getting

1294
00:44:23,109 --> 00:44:20,720
away from entertainment

1295
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:23,119
we're getting there um let's see if

1296
00:44:33,829 --> 00:44:32,230
tom has millions yeah

1297
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,839
tom did not have to do this for money he

1298
00:44:37,829 --> 00:44:36,240
could have he could have did a blink 182

1299
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:37,839
reunion

1300
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:41,359
once now kovid is going

1301
00:44:44,550 --> 00:44:42,880
um

1302
00:44:46,790 --> 00:44:44,560
put covert aside tom could have went

1303
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:46,800
back to blink did a reunion and cleaned

1304
00:44:50,309 --> 00:44:48,160
up like you wouldn't believe because his

1305
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:50,319
fans were clamoring for that and i am

1306
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:52,319
not a blink fan never have been don't

1307
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:53,920
like don't like his voice don't like the

1308
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:03,510
oh really i didn't so keating goes live

1309
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:04,720
and then he goes the subscription

1310
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:06,720
afterwards i hope not hopefully people

1311
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:08,240
can see that i need to save it because i

1312
00:45:16,550 --> 00:45:14,150
the cash grab flopped yes

1313
00:45:18,870 --> 00:45:16,560
hal put off joined ttsa to become a

1314
00:45:21,030 --> 00:45:18,880
millionaire because hal put off was

1315
00:45:22,150 --> 00:45:21,040
really struggling to pay his rent

1316
00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:22,160
and um

1317
00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:23,200
no

1318
00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:25,520
yeah the funding didn't come through but

1319
00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:26,960
i heard that from other people and it

1320
00:45:31,430 --> 00:45:28,560
affected other things it affected things

1321
00:45:33,349 --> 00:45:31,440
outside of tts a2

1322
00:45:35,670 --> 00:45:33,359
specifics i can't talk about but just

1323
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,680
nothing crazy just hiring people and

1324
00:45:39,829 --> 00:45:38,240
being being able being able to pay them

1325
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,839
and i just sounded like kick green there

1326
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:41,280
for a second

1327
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:43,760
i have kid green audio but the agreement

1328
00:45:46,710 --> 00:45:45,200
is to transcribe and make it into

1329
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:46,720
articles so i don't release his audio

1330
00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,440
but

1331
00:45:51,750 --> 00:45:50,480
i can impersonate kit green

1332
00:45:52,950 --> 00:45:51,760
why

1333
00:45:54,150 --> 00:45:52,960
how

1334
00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:54,160
where

1335
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:56,319
that's a really good green impersonation

1336
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:57,680
i don't know exactly what he was talking

1337
00:46:01,670 --> 00:45:59,200
about though i forget

1338
00:46:03,270 --> 00:46:01,680
um

1339
00:46:04,630 --> 00:46:03,280
really interesting guy and i will get

1340
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,640
that interview out one day i just want

1341
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,319
to add audio to it and it has to be

1342
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:08,160
cleaned up it's not right i know this i

1343
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,599
read through it and it's just i can see

1344
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:11,280
it doesn't make sense some of it because

1345
00:46:15,589 --> 00:46:13,119
i have typos

1346
00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,599
um some events said lou and chris needed

1347
00:46:18,790 --> 00:46:17,440
to go their own way and away from

1348
00:46:20,470 --> 00:46:18,800
entertainment

1349
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:20,480
they're both doing a great job both are

1350
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,079
courageous he met with lou while he was

1351
00:46:25,510 --> 00:46:23,920
the head of atip when lou was the head

1352
00:46:27,190 --> 00:46:25,520
of atip and

1353
00:46:29,750 --> 00:46:27,200
he did some unofficial consulting he

1354
00:46:32,550 --> 00:46:29,760
said they're doing god's work

1355
00:46:34,870 --> 00:46:32,560
he mentions jj abrams and how they

1356
00:46:37,829 --> 00:46:34,880
mentioned that show as government this

1357
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:37,839
info and i still have not watched it um

1358
00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:39,599
so that jim goes it's rather insulting

1359
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,079
to me and all government folks that was

1360
00:46:46,470 --> 00:46:44,240
a little bit of my semiband voice

1361
00:46:48,069 --> 00:46:46,480
you can't have this info you know a

1362
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,079
program this info program in the

1363
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,000
government oh yes you can they would do

1364
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:51,839
it and not tell us about it and he said

1365
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,839
i personally wouldn't do it just like

1366
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:55,359
elizondo has said the same thing you

1367
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,880
have to judge their character is he is

1368
00:46:59,990 --> 00:46:59,040
he putting on a front i don't get that

1369
00:47:01,990 --> 00:47:00,000
but

1370
00:47:03,270 --> 00:47:02,000
there will always be people accusing him

1371
00:47:04,950 --> 00:47:03,280
of that

1372
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:04,960
he says you can't influence the public

1373
00:47:07,750 --> 00:47:06,720
it's called an operation you can't do

1374
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:07,760
that

1375
00:47:13,349 --> 00:47:10,480
shows because they get i guess they

1376
00:47:15,270 --> 00:47:13,359
could you know edit his words

1377
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:15,280
when he was in the cia he had lawyers

1378
00:47:17,750 --> 00:47:16,640
all around him to make sure what they

1379
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:17,760
were doing

1380
00:47:22,790 --> 00:47:21,440
was legal and no mistakes were made

1381
00:47:25,109 --> 00:47:22,800
so they would you know they couldn't do

1382
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:25,119
anything to harm a citizen

1383
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,599
he goes that's bogus but i like mick

1384
00:47:32,549 --> 00:47:29,839
west he said that

1385
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,559
mick west i need to develop a mick west

1386
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:34,079
impersonation

1387
00:47:38,230 --> 00:47:35,839
is that true is that true jimmy do you

1388
00:47:40,069 --> 00:47:38,240
like me do you really like me jim i

1389
00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:40,079
don't know about that

1390
00:47:42,790 --> 00:47:41,839
that's a weak mick but it's my first

1391
00:47:44,470 --> 00:47:42,800
attempt

1392
00:47:49,750 --> 00:47:44,480
the last 10 years jim says wait let's

1393
00:47:53,109 --> 00:47:51,750
yeah i don't think they ever had enough

1394
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:53,119
money for a spacecraft they were gonna

1395
00:47:56,309 --> 00:47:54,640
have to get some deal i think tom talked

1396
00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:56,319
about

1397
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:57,760
making some deal with an aerospace

1398
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:01,040
corporation that did not happen

1399
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:02,160
did i really think they were ready to

1400
00:48:06,549 --> 00:48:04,720
create a craft i mean that wasn't on my

1401
00:48:08,309 --> 00:48:06,559
list of expectations but it would have

1402
00:48:09,190 --> 00:48:08,319
been cool

1403
00:48:11,829 --> 00:48:09,200
um

1404
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:11,839
crota supposedly got hit with

1405
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:17,030
covid but i don't think that's dead in

1406
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:18,400
the water but it would be nice if they

1407
00:48:26,790 --> 00:48:24,870
yeah

1408
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:26,800
lawyers i get it but he did address that

1409
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,960
later on as far as the law and he did

1410
00:48:31,670 --> 00:48:30,720
not hide from the past of united states

1411
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:31,680
government but if you think the

1412
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,440
government is still doing stuff on us i

1413
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,599
mean yeah i mean the whole echelon thing

1414
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:37,359
so

1415
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:38,880
you know

1416
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:40,800
but as far as like

1417
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:42,880
over overtly like going out of their way

1418
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:45,359
and creating disinformation for us

1419
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:48,720
he says no uh jim says the last 10 years

1420
00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:50,400
he consulted with the intel community

1421
00:48:53,510 --> 00:48:51,200
and

1422
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:53,520
worked on counter biological weapons he

1423
00:48:57,270 --> 00:48:55,200
worked on pandemics talked about the

1424
00:48:59,270 --> 00:48:57,280
pandemics at him with people who did

1425
00:49:02,630 --> 00:48:59,280
nothing but talk about the coming coming

1426
00:49:04,150 --> 00:49:02,640
pandemic he warned people over and over

1427
00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:04,160
it was just a question of when he said

1428
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:05,760
but nobody listens the government

1429
00:49:09,030 --> 00:49:07,440
doesn't listen congress doesn't listen

1430
00:49:11,430 --> 00:49:09,040
the senate doesn't listen

1431
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:11,440
it's just like nine not just like 9 9 11

1432
00:49:15,829 --> 00:49:14,480
um he talks about the vaccine and

1433
00:49:17,030 --> 00:49:15,839
he said yeah i don't know how they i

1434
00:49:18,150 --> 00:49:17,040
don't know the signs of it but he said

1435
00:49:19,829 --> 00:49:18,160
they were you know they don't want to

1436
00:49:22,309 --> 00:49:19,839
create or even talk about creating

1437
00:49:25,589 --> 00:49:22,319
something until you know until covet

1438
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:25,599
actually was here they waited um

1439
00:49:29,190 --> 00:49:27,760
he says uap are low probability high

1440
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:29,200
impact events

1441
00:49:33,349 --> 00:49:30,960
uh and he don't he does not think that

1442
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,359
uap ufos get the kind of attention they

1443
00:49:37,829 --> 00:49:35,760
deserve of course and then kurt says

1444
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,839
wait a second the government

1445
00:49:41,510 --> 00:49:39,200
doesn't test

1446
00:49:43,510 --> 00:49:41,520
against us what about mk ultra and

1447
00:49:44,790 --> 00:49:43,520
mockingbird and blue book although i

1448
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,800
don't know why he brought up blue book

1449
00:49:50,390 --> 00:49:46,160
um

1450
00:49:57,030 --> 00:49:52,790
what's the other one

1451
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:59,349
he says he's uh kurt goes the government

1452
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:03,119
does illegal stuff jim

1453
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:04,720
and he says

1454
00:50:09,670 --> 00:50:07,200
jim says of course

1455
00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:09,680
government has done some terrible things

1456
00:50:13,990 --> 00:50:11,440
take mk ultra and experiment with

1457
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:14,000
hallucinogenics terrible program

1458
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,920
and they burned the files he said condon

1459
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,000
was a total whitewash

1460
00:50:21,589 --> 00:50:19,680
you know we'll make funny we'll make fun

1461
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,599
of people who see ufos

1462
00:50:25,109 --> 00:50:23,280
this is why they were taking it private

1463
00:50:27,109 --> 00:50:25,119
they

1464
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,119
told told highest level government that

1465
00:50:30,950 --> 00:50:29,280
they were doing this

1466
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:30,960
uh he told

1467
00:50:36,710 --> 00:50:34,000
this was pretty cool he said

1468
00:50:38,150 --> 00:50:36,720
i guess when ttsa was forming they told

1469
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,160
i don't know if jim was the point man

1470
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:40,000
probably told the highest levels of the

1471
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:41,440
government that they were doing this

1472
00:50:44,549 --> 00:50:43,280
with ttsa

1473
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,559
um

1474
00:50:47,829 --> 00:50:46,400
he said you guys can't get this out for

1475
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,839
whatever reason

1476
00:50:52,470 --> 00:50:50,079
um and they responded said go ahead just

1477
00:50:54,790 --> 00:50:52,480
keep us posted and um

1478
00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:54,800
he said they'll he says the

1479
00:51:00,309 --> 00:50:57,280
he says that they get infor information

1480
00:51:02,549 --> 00:51:00,319
from those people

1481
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,559
and they'll share it with us

1482
00:51:05,910 --> 00:51:04,960
uh he says but we don't chill or work

1483
00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:05,920
for them

1484
00:51:08,790 --> 00:51:07,440
i thought that was cool though that he i

1485
00:51:10,710 --> 00:51:08,800
don't think i've ever heard anybody

1486
00:51:11,750 --> 00:51:10,720
specifically say that they got the okay

1487
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:11,760
except

1488
00:51:16,870 --> 00:51:13,440
i know fravor

1489
00:51:19,349 --> 00:51:16,880
in his interview with fighter pod

1490
00:51:21,109 --> 00:51:19,359
podcast uh fighter pilot podcast said

1491
00:51:24,069 --> 00:51:21,119
luke called him and said

1492
00:51:25,349 --> 00:51:24,079
uh we were given uh the okay you know i

1493
00:51:27,270 --> 00:51:25,359
forget the exact wording that was the

1494
00:51:28,790 --> 00:51:27,280
only time i'm like who gave him he said

1495
00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:28,800
they gave us the okay look who gave them

1496
00:51:32,150 --> 00:51:30,480
the okay so

1497
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:32,160
this kind of answers that semivan said

1498
00:51:35,910 --> 00:51:33,520
they got to okay i don't know who how

1499
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:35,920
high they went up you know that'd be

1500
00:51:38,630 --> 00:51:37,599
really curious to see who gave them the

1501
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:38,640
okay

1502
00:51:42,630 --> 00:51:40,880
and then he mentioned the alien body

1503
00:51:44,309 --> 00:51:42,640
and jim said that was a question do you

1504
00:51:45,750 --> 00:51:44,319
think we have a gov alien body in our

1505
00:51:47,589 --> 00:51:45,760
government you know somewhere in the

1506
00:51:49,990 --> 00:51:47,599
government

1507
00:51:51,589 --> 00:51:50,000
and jim said no comment and tom said

1508
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,599
there's no way to know you know hear all

1509
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:53,599
stories he talks about materials and

1510
00:51:56,470 --> 00:51:54,960
then i think he talked about linda

1511
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:56,480
molten howe's arts parts and how that

1512
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,920
supposedly does some really amazing

1513
00:52:01,030 --> 00:51:59,119
things

1514
00:52:02,549 --> 00:52:01,040
um

1515
00:52:04,230 --> 00:52:02,559
but you know if

1516
00:52:05,670 --> 00:52:04,240
if what's here is a real phenomenon

1517
00:52:07,670 --> 00:52:05,680
physical objects he goes you know you

1518
00:52:09,589 --> 00:52:07,680
want to know who's piloting it

1519
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:09,599
uh

1520
00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:12,160
if real if if if there is a body here

1521
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:13,520
tom says it will be very hard to get

1522
00:52:16,390 --> 00:52:14,720
someone to come out and say that of

1523
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:16,400
course i mean we've had other people

1524
00:52:20,390 --> 00:52:18,480
talk about it and sources and but

1525
00:52:22,230 --> 00:52:20,400
officially no

1526
00:52:23,990 --> 00:52:22,240
that would that would be a challenge for

1527
00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:24,000
people to accept especially if they

1528
00:52:34,870 --> 00:52:29,190
all right

1529
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,549
joe what are your thoughts on the hoaxed

1530
00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:37,920
questionable footage interlaced

1531
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:39,040
throughout the new show i haven't

1532
00:52:43,670 --> 00:52:42,160
watched it all um but they don't care

1533
00:52:45,030 --> 00:52:43,680
uh they'll put in anything that shows

1534
00:52:46,390 --> 00:52:45,040
good that's the problem with some tv

1535
00:52:48,309 --> 00:52:46,400
shows

1536
00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:48,319
i went back and looked at unidentified

1537
00:52:53,109 --> 00:52:51,200
unidentified was really good i mean

1538
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,119
it was solid it was shot well it wasn't

1539
00:52:56,549 --> 00:52:55,119
sensationalized there were some things i

1540
00:52:58,870 --> 00:52:56,559
disagreed with and i wrote about on my

1541
00:53:01,349 --> 00:52:58,880
blog like the italy stuff um the

1542
00:53:03,430 --> 00:53:01,359
helicopter but it was really well done

1543
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:03,440
the showtime from what i've seen they

1544
00:53:08,230 --> 00:53:06,640
went out of their way out of their way

1545
00:53:09,910 --> 00:53:08,240
i know that this info really pissed

1546
00:53:11,430 --> 00:53:09,920
people off that angle and i need to see

1547
00:53:13,270 --> 00:53:11,440
it

1548
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,280
uh joe how are you feeling about lazar

1549
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,839
lately i think he's a con artist

1550
00:53:19,510 --> 00:53:18,000
i don't know i can go either way

1551
00:53:20,710 --> 00:53:19,520
like i said

1552
00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:20,720
george knapp

1553
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:22,480
jeremy corbell never held it against me

1554
00:53:26,710 --> 00:53:24,000
when i was skeptical and then when i was

1555
00:53:29,589 --> 00:53:26,720
100 lazar last year when i lost my wits

1556
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,599
not that he's lost my wits but i was so

1557
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,960
excited about the new york times crash

1558
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:32,559
retrieval article and you know put in

1559
00:53:36,549 --> 00:53:34,960
1989 together with bob lazar and then

1560
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:36,559
eric davis saying the program stopped in

1561
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:38,160
1989 and i'm like

1562
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,119
i think lazarus real and

1563
00:53:44,710 --> 00:53:43,040
it's true and i was a believer for a

1564
00:53:47,430 --> 00:53:44,720
little very short period of time and i

1565
00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:47,440
told eric davis and he was like

1566
00:53:51,349 --> 00:53:49,359
okay he's like why and then he told me

1567
00:53:53,270 --> 00:53:51,359
some things just more of the same that

1568
00:53:55,589 --> 00:53:53,280
was in my article you know just people

1569
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:55,599
he talked to and so i was like and then

1570
00:53:59,109 --> 00:53:57,280
as time went by i'm like okay i'm back

1571
00:54:00,630 --> 00:53:59,119
to 50 50.

1572
00:54:02,390 --> 00:54:00,640
um

1573
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:02,400
yeah i was too excited last year then

1574
00:54:05,270 --> 00:54:03,760
right before the new york times article

1575
00:54:07,030 --> 00:54:05,280
came out

1576
00:54:08,069 --> 00:54:07,040
when tom said to jason's what the f did

1577
00:54:10,630 --> 00:54:08,079
he mean i don't know what the hell

1578
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:10,640
adjacents are um

1579
00:54:14,710 --> 00:54:13,520
dennis alvin's i don't know or numbing

1580
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,720
i don't know what the hell he's talking

1581
00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:15,760
about i'm like is this something i

1582
00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:19,040
should know the jason's

1583
00:54:24,790 --> 00:54:22,480
um i have to re-listen too

1584
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,800
he talked about i'll be lobe

1585
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:27,119
oh wait let's see

1586
00:54:34,230 --> 00:54:30,160
if they're so advanced and they influe i

1587
00:54:37,510 --> 00:54:35,750
yeah he says if they're so advanced and

1588
00:54:39,910 --> 00:54:37,520
they influence us if they've been around

1589
00:54:41,670 --> 00:54:39,920
for a long time

1590
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,680
and that doesn't make sense but he says

1591
00:54:48,950 --> 00:54:44,000
so far

1592
00:54:50,549 --> 00:54:48,960
dna

1593
00:54:52,710 --> 00:54:50,559
you know

1594
00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:52,720
it would probably be unnerving for the

1595
00:54:57,270 --> 00:54:54,319
truth to be told

1596
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,280
very complicated

1597
00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:59,760
there's a lot that we don't know um

1598
00:55:04,630 --> 00:55:01,599
he's tom said the government coming out

1599
00:55:06,870 --> 00:55:04,640
before they know what we're dealing with

1600
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:06,880
makes no sense i'm like really come on

1601
00:55:11,750 --> 00:55:08,480
so we have to wait until the government

1602
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,760
and find knows exactly what's going on

1603
00:55:15,270 --> 00:55:13,200
for them to come out and say that give

1604
00:55:16,950 --> 00:55:15,280
me a break that's ridiculous

1605
00:55:18,230 --> 00:55:16,960
if they have information share the

1606
00:55:19,510 --> 00:55:18,240
information

1607
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,520
i couldn't believe he said that it's

1608
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,280
like yeah i know you worked with these

1609
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:24,160
insiders but that's that's bs to me uh

1610
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:26,240
he said ufos have been picked up by

1611
00:55:29,430 --> 00:55:28,319
satellites thermal imaging spy

1612
00:55:31,670 --> 00:55:29,440
satellites

1613
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:31,680
uh he mentioned how mellon i'm not sure

1614
00:55:35,430 --> 00:55:33,920
if this gym or thomas and melon has

1615
00:55:37,349 --> 00:55:35,440
melon has spoken about how we need to

1616
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:37,359
get those sensors and adjust the

1617
00:55:41,270 --> 00:55:38,880
software so they can pick up these

1618
00:55:42,470 --> 00:55:41,280
objects uh so many more videos this is

1619
00:55:44,150 --> 00:55:42,480
definitely tom

1620
00:55:46,390 --> 00:55:44,160
doesn't think they're coming from space

1621
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,400
better to monitor what's materializing

1622
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:48,960
in this realm and yeah materialize

1623
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,720
materializing either they're coming from

1624
00:55:54,230 --> 00:55:52,160
another another dimension i wish he

1625
00:55:56,549 --> 00:55:54,240
would have spoken about

1626
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,559
being created at the uh

1627
00:56:00,230 --> 00:55:58,799
nano level because even jacqueline has

1628
00:56:03,109 --> 00:56:00,240
spoken about that chris mellon has

1629
00:56:04,549 --> 00:56:03,119
hinted at that um

1630
00:56:06,710 --> 00:56:04,559
i have to find that quote from chris

1631
00:56:09,349 --> 00:56:06,720
mellon if somebody among that either

1632
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:09,359
mellon or jacqueline that said

1633
00:56:13,190 --> 00:56:11,440
maybe the human dna maybe their dna

1634
00:56:15,030 --> 00:56:13,200
matches us because they can create

1635
00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:15,040
beings they can make the dna whatever

1636
00:56:18,630 --> 00:56:16,960
they want it might have been melon i

1637
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:18,640
need to find that

1638
00:56:23,750 --> 00:56:21,920
could have been valet um

1639
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:23,760
he's not saying there's lot not life out

1640
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,040
there e.t visiting us via drones

1641
00:56:30,789 --> 00:56:29,119
all right drones why he's i don't think

1642
00:56:33,030 --> 00:56:30,799
he's ever spoken about drones before

1643
00:56:35,030 --> 00:56:33,040
maybe people are hammering i know i know

1644
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:35,040
melon talks about drones

1645
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,880
and he talked about time going both ways

1646
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,640
there's an article on that at the time

1647
00:56:43,349 --> 00:56:40,400
it came out he mentioned it

1648
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:43,359
and things can pop in and out of here

1649
00:56:48,549 --> 00:56:46,000
maybe in utah just the future you know

1650
00:56:50,309 --> 00:56:48,559
at skinwalker and he said look at

1651
00:56:52,390 --> 00:56:50,319
frequency and duality and something else

1652
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,400
which i could not get

1653
00:56:56,549 --> 00:56:54,240
talked about avi lope thomas it's really

1654
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:56,559
good for anybody that does that i heard

1655
00:56:59,109 --> 00:56:57,760
from somebody privately that they're

1656
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,119
worried about where the money's gonna go

1657
00:57:04,470 --> 00:57:01,280
if it's gonna go to those folks and what

1658
00:57:06,230 --> 00:57:04,480
their pet projects are and not ufos

1659
00:57:07,589 --> 00:57:06,240
um

1660
00:57:08,470 --> 00:57:07,599
all the conversations he's had with

1661
00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:08,480
people

1662
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:13,670
his advisers told him a lot of things

1663
00:57:17,589 --> 00:57:15,760
and he tom realized how wrong he was

1664
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:17,599
with his previous opinions

1665
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,520
um over and over they would correct him

1666
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:21,119
um

1667
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:22,480
he said he gave an example a very

1668
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:24,079
important person that he met early on

1669
00:57:28,470 --> 00:57:26,880
before jim very high ranking person

1670
00:57:30,630 --> 00:57:28,480
he had a two-hour conversation with

1671
00:57:32,549 --> 00:57:30,640
someone who said this isn't real we've

1672
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:32,559
heard that story and this doesn't exist

1673
00:57:36,230 --> 00:57:34,160
this person was setting up a venture to

1674
00:57:38,150 --> 00:57:36,240
look for life elsewhere in the universe

1675
00:57:40,390 --> 00:57:38,160
some other program project

1676
00:57:41,670 --> 00:57:40,400
there was lots of money involved

1677
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:41,680
tom said but i want to talk about the

1678
00:57:45,030 --> 00:57:43,040
ones that are here and this person

1679
00:57:47,190 --> 00:57:45,040
looked at him and said let's introduce

1680
00:57:49,190 --> 00:57:47,200
you let's let's introduce him there were

1681
00:57:51,430 --> 00:57:49,200
other people there let's introduce tom

1682
00:57:53,349 --> 00:57:51,440
to so and so and that led to a meeting

1683
00:57:55,510 --> 00:57:53,359
the meeting with the general you know we

1684
00:57:57,990 --> 00:57:55,520
recovered a life form it was the cold

1685
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:58,000
war and other meetings and then he met

1686
00:58:01,750 --> 00:57:59,440
jim and then

1687
00:58:07,750 --> 00:58:01,760
jim taught him how to digest information

1688
00:58:13,829 --> 00:58:10,390
thanks bug thanks for the questions

1689
00:58:15,589 --> 00:58:13,839
i'm glad we have some people in here um

1690
00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:15,599
you don't get semi-van talking that

1691
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:18,160
often jason is a government study group

1692
00:58:24,069 --> 00:58:20,000
formed from university academics who

1693
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,079
rely review dod and doe projects okay

1694
00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,079
thank you thank you thank you i did not

1695
00:58:29,589 --> 00:58:27,839
know that

1696
00:58:31,030 --> 00:58:29,599
i will look that up

1697
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:31,040
afterwards

1698
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:34,960
yeah

1699
00:58:38,870 --> 00:58:36,880
i do know that about

1700
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:38,880
i think eric davis mentioned them we

1701
00:58:45,829 --> 00:58:44,390
i forget exactly what he said it was one

1702
00:58:49,670 --> 00:58:45,839
of his interviews which i need to

1703
00:58:54,309 --> 00:58:52,150
de long reiterated the magnetic anomaly

1704
00:58:55,829 --> 00:58:54,319
areas being connected as a few of those

1705
00:58:57,430 --> 00:58:55,839
can materialize more easily there and

1706
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,440
yeah maybe that's why they're they're

1707
00:59:01,030 --> 00:58:59,359
drawn to some of those places there's

1708
00:59:02,789 --> 00:59:01,040
also a native american connection to all

1709
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:02,799
those places so i don't you know i don't

1710
00:59:07,829 --> 00:59:04,640
know about that either

1711
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:07,839
if is it magnetic or is it is it both

1712
00:59:10,230 --> 00:59:08,880
um

1713
00:59:12,230 --> 00:59:10,240
the jasons have dealt with topics

1714
00:59:14,549 --> 00:59:12,240
ranging from nuclear missile design to

1715
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:14,559
climate change modeling

1716
00:59:22,950 --> 00:59:18,720
yeah i did not know any of that stuff

1717
00:59:29,030 --> 00:59:27,190
jim semivan says he feels sorry for

1718
00:59:30,950 --> 00:59:29,040
scientists he said he's a huge fan of

1719
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:30,960
the galileo project he applauds them for

1720
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:32,960
being so courageous

1721
00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:34,960
hasn't many scientists hasn't met many

1722
00:59:37,589 --> 00:59:36,559
scientists that are doing something like

1723
00:59:39,670 --> 00:59:37,599
this

1724
00:59:42,870 --> 00:59:39,680
who have a sound understanding of the

1725
00:59:45,190 --> 00:59:42,880
research of the past 70 years that's

1726
00:59:46,309 --> 00:59:45,200
yeah that's a great thing when people

1727
00:59:48,630 --> 00:59:46,319
first get into this and they have an

1728
00:59:51,109 --> 00:59:48,640
opinion they don't know the history

1729
00:59:52,789 --> 00:59:51,119
some skeptics are like that too

1730
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,799
some of the newbies are in ufology are

1731
00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:54,799
like that too but they'll learn i mean

1732
00:59:57,829 --> 00:59:56,160
it's a lot

1733
00:59:59,430 --> 00:59:57,839
there's plenty i don't know and need to

1734
01:00:01,109 --> 00:59:59,440
learn

1735
01:00:02,630 --> 01:00:01,119
he said if these scientists did have a

1736
01:00:04,710 --> 01:00:02,640
better grasp of the history they'd have

1737
01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:04,720
a better they'd appreciate

1738
01:00:08,390 --> 01:00:06,240
what they're up against

1739
01:00:10,789 --> 01:00:08,400
or or what their

1740
01:00:12,470 --> 01:00:10,799
or what they're trying to get out and

1741
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:12,480
get the information out i think i made a

1742
01:00:17,990 --> 01:00:15,520
typo there in jim's opinion he does

1743
01:00:19,990 --> 01:00:18,000
think we'll come to he does not think

1744
01:00:21,190 --> 01:00:20,000
we'll come to a conclusion in his

1745
01:00:23,990 --> 01:00:21,200
lifetime

1746
01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:24,000
that was yeah i know a lot of people

1747
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:25,520
had their stomachs

1748
01:00:30,069 --> 01:00:27,760
sink when they heard that but that could

1749
01:00:31,589 --> 01:00:30,079
be reality

1750
01:00:33,589 --> 01:00:31,599
and he talked about this lots more than

1751
01:00:36,549 --> 01:00:33,599
uap in this

1752
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,559
that's why the whole jim

1753
01:00:40,950 --> 01:00:38,880
james let catski and

1754
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,960
somebody online today was saying that

1755
01:00:43,910 --> 01:00:42,400
they they like how do you know it's

1756
01:00:45,910 --> 01:00:43,920
latkatsuki

1757
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:45,920
it's lakotsky you know i had two sources

1758
01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:47,920
that told me and keith baxterfield

1759
01:00:52,309 --> 01:00:50,319
figured it out he was the one that ran

1760
01:00:54,390 --> 01:00:52,319
awsapp it's not it's not a secret i mean

1761
01:00:55,910 --> 01:00:54,400
it's like the worst kept secret lou

1762
01:00:57,910 --> 01:00:55,920
needs him to speak up to take some of

1763
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:57,920
the pressure off of him he was a rocket

1764
01:01:01,750 --> 01:00:59,760
science he had a i think a phd in

1765
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:01,760
physics and math

1766
01:01:05,430 --> 01:01:03,680
i think he actually went to um harry

1767
01:01:06,630 --> 01:01:05,440
reid's house in one of the read

1768
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:06,640
interviews

1769
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:08,559
um talks about the trickster element

1770
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,000
which is great that he knows about that

1771
01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,119
because people assume that he's not

1772
01:01:17,030 --> 01:01:15,599
well versed in the subject and you know

1773
01:01:18,710 --> 01:01:17,040
not a lot of people bring up the

1774
01:01:20,309 --> 01:01:18,720
trickster element it's a big part of

1775
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:20,319
john keele's work

1776
01:01:27,270 --> 01:01:25,750
and they said it's between this is

1777
01:01:28,870 --> 01:01:27,280
between consciousness and quantum

1778
01:01:31,349 --> 01:01:28,880
mechanics and he talks about

1779
01:01:33,270 --> 01:01:31,359
entanglement and particle wave theory

1780
01:01:35,670 --> 01:01:33,280
um above my pay grade i know

1781
01:01:36,950 --> 01:01:35,680
entanglement but

1782
01:01:38,069 --> 01:01:36,960
i thought i did until i heard a

1783
01:01:39,589 --> 01:01:38,079
physicist say you don't know

1784
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:39,599
entanglement

1785
01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:43,280
not to me but to the the audience

1786
01:01:49,109 --> 01:01:45,760
with uaps there's no lexicon to use to

1787
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:49,119
begin discussion and can't figure what

1788
01:01:52,630 --> 01:01:50,640
and they can't figure out what questions

1789
01:01:54,150 --> 01:01:52,640
to ask many scientists are extremely

1790
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:54,160
frustrated over this

1791
01:02:00,789 --> 01:01:55,920
there is hard evidence and there is

1792
01:02:03,829 --> 01:02:02,549
yeah i know a lot of scientists will not

1793
01:02:06,069 --> 01:02:03,839
get involved unless we have more of the

1794
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,079
hard evidence but as chris mellon said

1795
01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:08,720
and i said and other people have said

1796
01:02:12,470 --> 01:02:10,799
get people like avi loeb and other

1797
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:12,480
people read in and they could tell us

1798
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:15,359
just the basics so when the public sees

1799
01:02:18,870 --> 01:02:16,960
and as much as i don't like neil

1800
01:02:20,950 --> 01:02:18,880
degrasse tyson if you would get him read

1801
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:20,960
in and he came out and said

1802
01:02:24,950 --> 01:02:23,680
um this is real i can't tell you exactly

1803
01:02:27,510 --> 01:02:24,960
what i saw

1804
01:02:29,349 --> 01:02:27,520
but it's real uh we need to study this

1805
01:02:32,390 --> 01:02:29,359
if somebody like that find somebody else

1806
01:02:34,390 --> 01:02:32,400
a big name the public that would help so

1807
01:02:36,069 --> 01:02:34,400
much with the general public i don't

1808
01:02:37,910 --> 01:02:36,079
know how much they

1809
01:02:39,510 --> 01:02:37,920
look at it like us and you know obsess

1810
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:39,520
over it but they'd be more interested i

1811
01:02:42,710 --> 01:02:40,480
think

1812
01:02:45,670 --> 01:02:42,720
he said the tic tacs were real

1813
01:02:47,270 --> 01:02:45,680
don't say their sensor anomalies

1814
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:47,280
what do you do with that

1815
01:02:51,910 --> 01:02:50,240
he likes galileo i said that already but

1816
01:02:53,430 --> 01:02:51,920
we need it you know galileo thinks we

1817
01:02:54,870 --> 01:02:53,440
need a great picture he's like yeah we

1818
01:02:56,390 --> 01:02:54,880
do need the great picture i'm like i

1819
01:02:58,230 --> 01:02:56,400
think we have great pictures we just

1820
01:02:59,750 --> 01:02:58,240
need to get them released

1821
01:03:02,230 --> 01:02:59,760
um

1822
01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:02,240
and as yeah lou said we already have it

1823
01:03:05,349 --> 01:03:03,680
we have videos

1824
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:05,359
can't give away sources and methods

1825
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:06,960
though all right then take a freeze

1826
01:03:09,829 --> 01:03:08,160
frame of it

1827
01:03:11,829 --> 01:03:09,839
um

1828
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:11,839
jim takes his hat off to greer which a

1829
01:03:15,270 --> 01:03:13,599
lot of people probably batted an eye at

1830
01:03:17,109 --> 01:03:15,280
like really

1831
01:03:19,109 --> 01:03:17,119
he said he did a lot of great work early

1832
01:03:21,589 --> 01:03:19,119
on which i yeah i agree with uh

1833
01:03:23,109 --> 01:03:21,599
mentioned ce5 the question and some even

1834
01:03:24,390 --> 01:03:23,119
said semivan said

1835
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,400
no comment

1836
01:03:28,789 --> 01:03:27,200
i don't go that far and then tom says

1837
01:03:31,829 --> 01:03:28,799
he thinks in the future we'll be hacking

1838
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:31,839
the minds hacking our minds

1839
01:03:35,430 --> 01:03:33,839
you know listen listening to what people

1840
01:03:38,069 --> 01:03:35,440
are thinking

1841
01:03:40,470 --> 01:03:38,079
yeah that that can't go wrong right

1842
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:40,480
uh he thinks it's wonderful you know

1843
01:03:43,910 --> 01:03:42,079
consciousness and meditation he talks

1844
01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:43,920
about advanced beings may be able to do

1845
01:03:48,150 --> 01:03:45,680
that that's kind of my argument that i

1846
01:03:50,789 --> 01:03:48,160
think ufos will lead once people realize

1847
01:03:53,190 --> 01:03:50,799
it's real it'll lead to us looking into

1848
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:53,200
all types of metaphysics related

1849
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:54,720
consciousness use that word instead of

1850
01:03:59,349 --> 01:03:56,000
metaphysics

1851
01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:59,359
meditation is the beginning uh

1852
01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:01,119
he thinks advanced beings may already be

1853
01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:02,640
doing that if you listen to some of the

1854
01:04:05,270 --> 01:04:03,680
stories

1855
01:04:07,190 --> 01:04:05,280
where people hear voices in their head

1856
01:04:08,789 --> 01:04:07,200
and they're paralyzed you know

1857
01:04:09,990 --> 01:04:08,799
they're hacking the system and then some

1858
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:10,000
event says

1859
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:11,760
i'm not discounting greer i just don't

1860
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:14,160
know enough about that ce5 but i applaud

1861
01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:15,599
that he's working on it and then tom

1862
01:04:20,549 --> 01:04:17,200
said push your government

1863
01:04:23,029 --> 01:04:20,559
push your government

1864
01:04:25,190 --> 01:04:23,039
um jim said he told the government folks

1865
01:04:27,990 --> 01:04:25,200
he was taking it private but once again

1866
01:04:31,510 --> 01:04:28,000
he reiterated said he won't discuss

1867
01:04:36,710 --> 01:04:33,430
but he said the government does not own

1868
01:04:38,710 --> 01:04:36,720
this data it doesn't appear

1869
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:38,720
just to carry a strike groups it appears

1870
01:04:42,309 --> 01:04:40,079
everywhere around the world and he

1871
01:04:44,630 --> 01:04:42,319
mentioned i think bangladesh and some

1872
01:04:46,470 --> 01:04:44,640
other place uh he said humans need to

1873
01:04:49,109 --> 01:04:46,480
get together you know

1874
01:04:53,349 --> 01:04:49,119
reality

1875
01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:53,359
isn't quite all right what we agree on

1876
01:04:57,029 --> 01:04:55,200
what reality is isn't quite right and i

1877
01:04:59,109 --> 01:04:57,039
agree with that i think we need to

1878
01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,119
there's something off that we're missing

1879
01:05:03,910 --> 01:05:02,319
as a species um he said something else

1880
01:05:04,789 --> 01:05:03,920
is going on and we need to figure it out

1881
01:05:07,190 --> 01:05:04,799
because

1882
01:05:09,829 --> 01:05:07,200
that's what we do as human beings

1883
01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:09,839
um i agree and then tom said the second

1884
01:05:13,510 --> 01:05:11,280
show would be more about what the

1885
01:05:15,029 --> 01:05:13,520
phenomenon is doing and what it's about

1886
01:05:18,069 --> 01:05:15,039
which is great

1887
01:05:19,270 --> 01:05:18,079
so that is the summary any questions

1888
01:05:20,829 --> 01:05:19,280
before

1889
01:05:24,470 --> 01:05:20,839
an hour that was fine

1890
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:24,480
um yeah a 23 minute video somebody today

1891
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:26,160
i was talking about i said

1892
01:05:28,470 --> 01:05:27,359
you know would it make a difference i'm

1893
01:05:30,309 --> 01:05:28,480
like it would make a difference with a

1894
01:05:32,470 --> 01:05:30,319
lot of people if it's as good as he

1895
01:05:34,230 --> 01:05:32,480
claims you know if we've heard i don't

1896
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:34,240
know details but yeah it would make a

1897
01:05:38,390 --> 01:05:36,240
big difference getting people interested

1898
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:38,400
in the subject especially the general

1899
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:40,559
public

1900
01:05:44,710 --> 01:05:42,480
if they released 23 million videos

1901
01:05:46,230 --> 01:05:44,720
clears and it's as clear as lewis said

1902
01:05:48,470 --> 01:05:46,240
it's all over

1903
01:05:51,430 --> 01:05:48,480
it would awaken the masses i think um

1904
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,440
most people i don't know majority but it

1905
01:05:55,750 --> 01:05:53,359
would awaken a lot of people

1906
01:05:59,670 --> 01:05:57,349
and like i said if your questions are

1907
01:06:02,230 --> 01:05:59,680
above ask him again i'll stay up for 10

1908
01:06:04,630 --> 01:06:02,240
more minutes

1909
01:06:07,270 --> 01:06:04,640
yeah i mean the whole greer

1910
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:07,280
false invasion and

1911
01:06:11,109 --> 01:06:08,799
there's other things you know they were

1912
01:06:14,870 --> 01:06:11,119
questionable witnesses and when he did

1913
01:06:16,230 --> 01:06:14,880
his disclosure project in 2001 and

1914
01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:16,240
although

1915
01:06:20,950 --> 01:06:18,400
some people like those witnesses so

1916
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:20,960
and and sheehan helped him vet those

1917
01:06:24,630 --> 01:06:22,960
witnesses which

1918
01:06:25,990 --> 01:06:24,640
if there you know

1919
01:06:27,670 --> 01:06:26,000
mixed feelings about that because i

1920
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:27,680
wasn't a fan of some of those witnesses

1921
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:29,440
i think eric davis called it the shotgun

1922
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:38,950
bye julie thank you thank you thank you

1923
01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:43,750
yes emmy van had beings in his room and

1924
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:45,440
it was during college and he wrote about

1925
01:06:49,270 --> 01:06:47,280
it in the forward to secret machines if

1926
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:49,280
you type in forward secret machine

1927
01:06:52,390 --> 01:06:51,280
semivan it'll come up to separate web

1928
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:52,400
page

1929
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:53,599
so he had an experience and i think

1930
01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:55,839
grant cameron said that his wife got a

1931
01:06:59,750 --> 01:06:57,520
little cut on her leg during it she had

1932
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:59,760
it so i mean

1933
01:07:02,789 --> 01:07:01,200
i guess he can't talk about it or he

1934
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:02,799
doesn't want to talk about it i'm sure

1935
01:07:06,390 --> 01:07:04,160
he can talk about it it's like it's

1936
01:07:08,230 --> 01:07:06,400
classified

1937
01:07:11,029 --> 01:07:08,240
yeah um

1938
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:11,039
there's a lot of things greer says that

1939
01:07:13,829 --> 01:07:12,559
some of them are amazing i'm like i hope

1940
01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:13,839
that's true i hope we can look into

1941
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:15,520
another dimension and see those beings i

1942
01:07:19,349 --> 01:07:17,680
mean he said that he said there's some

1943
01:07:21,270 --> 01:07:19,359
nat you know negative beings in other

1944
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:21,280
dimensions but et's are all good

1945
01:07:26,309 --> 01:07:24,640
according to him hey semivan said hey

1946
01:07:28,789 --> 01:07:26,319
there's no threat maybe because there's

1947
01:07:30,390 --> 01:07:28,799
no et's here maybe the person who told

1948
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:30,400
me that you know there was all these

1949
01:07:33,910 --> 01:07:32,400
different groups here was pulling my leg

1950
01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:33,920
i don't know

1951
01:07:38,710 --> 01:07:35,680
i think eric davis has talked about how

1952
01:07:40,309 --> 01:07:38,720
it's here and it's in a shadow biome and

1953
01:07:42,309 --> 01:07:40,319
they're using other dimensions whether

1954
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,319
extraterrestrial or not extraterrestrial

1955
01:07:46,789 --> 01:07:44,240
they're still using other dimensions he

1956
01:07:48,549 --> 01:07:46,799
did not come to a conclusion

1957
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,559
i read ross's book yeah before the

1958
01:07:51,829 --> 01:07:49,920
interview i read the entire thing and

1959
01:07:53,670 --> 01:07:51,839
took notes and it was

1960
01:07:56,230 --> 01:07:53,680
it was a lot to get to and then i didn't

1961
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:56,240
even get to those questions because

1962
01:07:59,430 --> 01:07:58,720
we ran out of time i liked ross's book a

1963
01:08:01,109 --> 01:07:59,440
lot

1964
01:08:02,390 --> 01:08:01,119
the big thing about ross's book is he

1965
01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:02,400
got

1966
01:08:06,309 --> 01:08:04,640
tom wilson to say he did not know oak

1967
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:06,319
shannon and oak shannon if you know the

1968
01:08:09,990 --> 01:08:08,240
notes set up the meeting between wilson

1969
01:08:11,670 --> 01:08:10,000
and davis because he knew both of them

1970
01:08:14,309 --> 01:08:11,680
and when billy cox interviewed oak

1971
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:14,319
shannon last year or the year before oak

1972
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:15,200
said

1973
01:08:19,189 --> 01:08:17,440
i know wilson i know davis if this has

1974
01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:19,199
caused embarrassment to tom wilson i

1975
01:08:23,349 --> 01:08:21,679
apologize that wasn't my intention

1976
01:08:25,510 --> 01:08:23,359
tom wilson is a

1977
01:08:26,870 --> 01:08:25,520
forget the word he used admirable man

1978
01:08:29,749 --> 01:08:26,880
and then wilson says i don't know who

1979
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:29,759
the hell oh shannon is uh

1980
01:08:33,269 --> 01:08:31,600
so billy touched back with oak shannon

1981
01:08:35,910 --> 01:08:33,279
oaks janet says

1982
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,920
i know tom wilson or i did know tom

1983
01:08:39,430 --> 01:08:37,440
wilson because it's been a while and he

1984
01:08:41,590 --> 01:08:39,440
said it's a big to me it's a big it's

1985
01:08:43,269 --> 01:08:41,600
not a huge deal but it's a big deal okay

1986
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:43,279
says when billy says do you want to talk

1987
01:08:48,309 --> 01:08:46,080
about how and why how and when you met

1988
01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:48,319
admiral wilson and oak shannon will not

1989
01:08:53,110 --> 01:08:51,040
say so because probably because if you

1990
01:08:54,789 --> 01:08:53,120
knew how they met you would say

1991
01:08:57,349 --> 01:08:54,799
obviously they know each other tom

1992
01:08:59,430 --> 01:08:57,359
wilson is lying

1993
01:09:02,149 --> 01:08:59,440
so

1994
01:09:05,990 --> 01:09:04,229
yeah it's nice to see ross's documentary

1995
01:09:07,910 --> 01:09:06,000
being available everywhere else i mean

1996
01:09:09,990 --> 01:09:07,920
he said it was it was

1997
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:10,000
it was um

1998
01:09:15,349 --> 01:09:13,359
not hacked but bootlegged everywhere so

1999
01:09:17,030 --> 01:09:15,359
i'll watch it again though

2000
01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:17,040
i'll give them the views i liked it a

2001
01:09:24,149 --> 01:09:22,229
laundering meta materials bit i didn't

2002
01:09:26,309 --> 01:09:24,159
hear that

2003
01:09:27,669 --> 01:09:26,319
hold on there's another question

2004
01:09:29,669 --> 01:09:27,679
semi-vanna's one point claim that

2005
01:09:31,269 --> 01:09:29,679
they're probably indifferent towards us

2006
01:09:32,870 --> 01:09:31,279
i don't think that's bad at all no that

2007
01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:32,880
would be good

2008
01:09:38,309 --> 01:09:36,560
it doesn't mean bad things can't happen

2009
01:09:39,749 --> 01:09:38,319
to us i mean we're in different certain

2010
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:39,759
species and

2011
01:09:43,110 --> 01:09:41,679
like an ant we don't care as long as

2012
01:09:44,789 --> 01:09:43,120
they answer in the woods but we step on

2013
01:09:47,910 --> 01:09:44,799
them all the time so it's like we don't

2014
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:47,920
really care so what kind of indifference

2015
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:50,960
levels of indifference

2016
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:51,920
what do you think of the i don't know

2017
01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:53,520
what the laundering of metamaterials bit

2018
01:10:01,510 --> 01:09:59,669
sources and methods there are ways

2019
01:10:03,270 --> 01:10:01,520
around sources and methods there's got

2020
01:10:04,390 --> 01:10:03,280
to be a way around sources and methods

2021
01:10:07,910 --> 01:10:04,400
come on

2022
01:10:09,510 --> 01:10:07,920
you know i don't think everybody's just

2023
01:10:11,910 --> 01:10:09,520
giving us bull but i think there are

2024
01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:11,920
ways around that

2025
01:10:16,149 --> 01:10:13,679
backwards cap is because i did not want

2026
01:10:17,510 --> 01:10:16,159
to put gel on my hair michael you know

2027
01:10:19,350 --> 01:10:17,520
and i don't look good with a forwards

2028
01:10:21,830 --> 01:10:19,360
cap you don't want to see a cap on me

2029
01:10:23,590 --> 01:10:21,840
forwards it looks really bad

2030
01:10:24,390 --> 01:10:23,600
oh i'm sure jim knows a lot more too

2031
01:10:26,709 --> 01:10:24,400
yeah

2032
01:10:28,310 --> 01:10:26,719
um

2033
01:10:30,390 --> 01:10:28,320
still gotta watch

2034
01:10:32,390 --> 01:10:30,400
i don't know what that is

2035
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:32,400
ross is really really good it's nice to

2036
01:10:35,669 --> 01:10:34,159
have somebody international into this

2037
01:10:36,790 --> 01:10:35,679
and he's working on

2038
01:10:39,910 --> 01:10:36,800
you know

2039
01:10:41,910 --> 01:10:39,920
everything in the book and there's

2040
01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:41,920
people connect connecting with him as he

2041
01:10:45,750 --> 01:10:43,280
said you know constantly getting

2042
01:10:48,070 --> 01:10:45,760
information

2043
01:10:52,709 --> 01:10:48,080
talking about ross saying um government

2044
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,719
gave ttsa meta materials

2045
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:54,560
if you could call in you could give me

2046
01:10:59,110 --> 01:10:55,760
more details because i don't remember

2047
01:11:01,030 --> 01:10:59,120
that part um

2048
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:01,040
seeing us government gay be i don't know

2049
01:11:04,709 --> 01:11:03,040
about that i mean

2050
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:04,719
i don't think they did as far as i know

2051
01:11:10,630 --> 01:11:06,480
unless he had a source and if he did i

2052
01:11:13,990 --> 01:11:12,709
it actually doesn't appear everything in

2053
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:14,000
the world because we have zero

2054
01:11:17,910 --> 01:11:15,440
compelling data which is i don't know

2055
01:11:19,430 --> 01:11:17,920
what that means though

2056
01:11:20,950 --> 01:11:19,440
i'm glad we have 50 people i thought it

2057
01:11:22,229 --> 01:11:20,960
would be zero

2058
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,239
you know you could do too many live but

2059
01:11:25,669 --> 01:11:23,679
i'm trying to do live at least once a

2060
01:11:26,550 --> 01:11:25,679
week maybe just this kind of thing and

2061
01:11:28,470 --> 01:11:26,560
then

2062
01:11:30,149 --> 01:11:28,480
i guess i want to try to interview k

2063
01:11:32,149 --> 01:11:30,159
randall may

2064
01:11:35,189 --> 01:11:32,159
um who i got the reading from she's been

2065
01:11:36,550 --> 01:11:35,199
uh intuitive for a long time

2066
01:11:39,110 --> 01:11:36,560
ryan graves i don't know what ryan

2067
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:39,120
graves is up to mike i mean

2068
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,040
he kind of downplayed it after he came

2069
01:11:44,870 --> 01:11:42,880
out and said you know stuff is going on

2070
01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:44,880
then he said don't get too excited i

2071
01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:46,640
don't know what it is though

2072
01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:48,320
i haven't heard anything recently from

2073
01:11:57,830 --> 01:11:55,590
except that

2074
01:11:59,350 --> 01:11:57,840
disclosure is happening right before us

2075
01:12:01,590 --> 01:11:59,360
but it doesn't mean it's going to happen

2076
01:12:03,750 --> 01:12:01,600
fast

2077
01:12:06,149 --> 01:12:03,760
ross would narrate does doesn't does

2078
01:12:10,310 --> 01:12:06,159
valet have any books books on tape at

2079
01:12:13,910 --> 01:12:12,470
yeah they when they give linda linda her

2080
01:12:16,070 --> 01:12:13,920
sample back it's gonna look a little

2081
01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:16,080
different

2082
01:12:25,189 --> 01:12:23,430
why do

2083
01:12:26,709 --> 01:12:25,199
you think no one ever questions tom on

2084
01:12:28,310 --> 01:12:26,719
the castle in email that's another one

2085
01:12:29,990 --> 01:12:28,320
why wasn't mccaslin brought up it

2086
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:30,000
probably probably would not talk about

2087
01:12:33,910 --> 01:12:31,679
it because that was not supposed to be

2088
01:12:34,790 --> 01:12:33,920
public

2089
01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,800
um

2090
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:36,480
oh okay i didn't know it was speculation

2091
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:37,920
by ross i mean

2092
01:12:42,310 --> 01:12:39,679
i have so many notes on that book too

2093
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:42,320
many notes took me forever to read

2094
01:12:51,110 --> 01:12:48,390
yeah my castle and imagine him going

2095
01:12:52,950 --> 01:12:51,120
public that would be amazing

2096
01:12:54,630 --> 01:12:52,960
probably won't though you know it would

2097
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:54,640
be nice if these guys went public before

2098
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:57,040
they died

2099
01:13:01,430 --> 01:12:59,840
yeah i'm not good at videos preston so

2100
01:13:03,110 --> 01:13:01,440
anybody who puts videos up i look at

2101
01:13:04,149 --> 01:13:03,120
them and especially nighttime videos so

2102
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,159
i wouldn't even be able to tell you if

2103
01:13:08,149 --> 01:13:06,480
it was a satellite i mean

2104
01:13:09,669 --> 01:13:08,159
um

2105
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,679
but he's being he's gonna be i do

2106
01:13:12,630 --> 01:13:10,960
believe stuff happened at the blood

2107
01:13:13,669 --> 01:13:12,640
cells enough people had experiences with

2108
01:13:15,270 --> 01:13:13,679
him

2109
01:13:17,430 --> 01:13:15,280
all the other stuff that his son talks

2110
01:13:19,750 --> 01:13:17,440
about that semivan told them

2111
01:13:21,189 --> 01:13:19,760
that we were created by

2112
01:13:22,470 --> 01:13:21,199
this is what ryan bledsoe said on

2113
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:22,480
twitter semi-van was sitting in the

2114
01:13:27,910 --> 01:13:24,400
chair and said

2115
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:27,920
ultra-terrestrials created us

2116
01:13:30,310 --> 01:13:29,120
and

2117
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:30,320
i don't know what else he said there's

2118
01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:38,470
ross said

2119
01:13:41,830 --> 01:13:39,840
on

2120
01:13:43,110 --> 01:13:41,840
celebrity review that the us has their

2121
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:43,120
frequency

2122
01:13:46,390 --> 01:13:44,480
yeah

2123
01:13:47,910 --> 01:13:46,400
that's that's from

2124
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:47,920
the bob fish

2125
01:13:51,270 --> 01:13:49,520
wikileaks

2126
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,280
stuff check it out

2127
01:13:54,790 --> 01:13:53,440
um he check it out in ross's book that

2128
01:13:55,910 --> 01:13:54,800
ross interviewed him it's really great

2129
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:55,920
they figure they can figure out the

2130
01:14:00,950 --> 01:13:58,320
frequency of these uap coming in and out

2131
01:14:02,470 --> 01:14:00,960
of the ocean apparently

2132
01:14:04,229 --> 01:14:02,480
and this guy's like he goes i can't tell

2133
01:14:05,669 --> 01:14:04,239
you the frequency because then russia or

2134
01:14:08,070 --> 01:14:05,679
china would build a craft with that

2135
01:14:10,229 --> 01:14:08,080
frequency because supposedly we once we

2136
01:14:12,390 --> 01:14:10,239
see that frequency we're like ah that's

2137
01:14:14,390 --> 01:14:12,400
the ufos just let them be

2138
01:14:15,910 --> 01:14:14,400
so if russia or china knew that

2139
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,920
frequency they would

2140
01:14:19,510 --> 01:14:17,840
create a craft with the same frequency

2141
01:14:21,030 --> 01:14:19,520
and then we would just leave it alone

2142
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:21,040
it's a really good interview and there's

2143
01:14:24,870 --> 01:14:22,640
stuff in the

2144
01:14:27,110 --> 01:14:24,880
um wikileaks stuff that deals with it

2145
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:27,120
too it's which i missed

2146
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,760
lots of stuff i've missed

2147
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,280
our oh my god i would love to do

2148
01:14:35,510 --> 01:14:33,199
something have semi-van on i should ask

2149
01:14:37,350 --> 01:14:35,520
i should ask if anybody from ttsa would

2150
01:14:38,870 --> 01:14:37,360
come on my show which i don't even have

2151
01:14:40,630 --> 01:14:38,880
a name for

2152
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:40,640
the old show's name was the ufo joe show

2153
01:14:45,430 --> 01:14:43,280
i guess that works

2154
01:14:46,630 --> 01:14:45,440
um

2155
01:14:50,070 --> 01:14:46,640
michael i haven't heard from him

2156
01:14:52,149 --> 01:14:50,080
hopefully he does well with his surgery

2157
01:14:54,149 --> 01:14:52,159
did semi-van reveal why he uses melinda

2158
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:54,159
leslie as a mouthpiece she claims to

2159
01:14:57,590 --> 01:14:55,840
have had alien hybrid children and cells

2160
01:15:00,550 --> 01:14:57,600
ufo tours

2161
01:15:02,390 --> 01:15:00,560
um i don't know about her tours uh

2162
01:15:03,750 --> 01:15:02,400
i've heard good things about her tours

2163
01:15:08,149 --> 01:15:03,760
my labs

2164
01:15:09,669 --> 01:15:08,159
like she has talked about him

2165
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:09,679
commenting on my labs i don't remember

2166
01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:14,790
my labs are something i have not

2167
01:15:18,390 --> 01:15:17,360
rejected i interviewed her in 97

2168
01:15:19,590 --> 01:15:18,400
i don't know what to think about it

2169
01:15:21,910 --> 01:15:19,600
though

2170
01:15:27,510 --> 01:15:21,920
as with mo most things in the phenomenon

2171
01:15:32,070 --> 01:15:29,189
yeah well i should do more audio or at

2172
01:15:33,750 --> 01:15:32,080
least have somebody do it

2173
01:15:35,830 --> 01:15:33,760
esthetic ranch i've heard mixed things

2174
01:15:37,350 --> 01:15:35,840
about

2175
01:15:39,430 --> 01:15:37,360
somebody said that they were same thing

2176
01:15:42,390 --> 01:15:39,440
seeing satellites out there

2177
01:15:45,189 --> 01:15:42,400
michael vi is great thank you um

2178
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:45,199
i invited him on today but he was busy

2179
01:15:49,189 --> 01:15:47,280
there's so many more topics that we can

2180
01:15:51,030 --> 01:15:49,199
get into with mike he he has a lot of

2181
01:15:52,390 --> 01:15:51,040
opinions

2182
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:52,400
especially about this this would have

2183
01:15:58,950 --> 01:15:55,760
been good for him but he had a pre

2184
01:16:01,110 --> 01:15:58,960
pre-planned engagement unfortunately

2185
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:01,120
um

2186
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:04,480
anyway so that is i'm gonna

2187
01:16:09,270 --> 01:16:06,719
call quits yeah i have no reason not to

2188
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:09,280
believe see i see a you know semi-van i

2189
01:16:15,910 --> 01:16:13,990
we'll see

2190
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:15,920
have i asked kit green's most trusted

2191
01:16:19,990 --> 01:16:17,440
psychic about the session done that

2192
01:16:21,669 --> 01:16:20,000
talks about certain things near catalina

2193
01:16:23,990 --> 01:16:21,679
no she does not want to talk about any

2194
01:16:26,070 --> 01:16:24,000
of that stuff because it's

2195
01:16:26,950 --> 01:16:26,080
i don't know if it's just private data

2196
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:26,960
um

2197
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:27,920
but

2198
01:16:36,870 --> 01:16:34,390
loose strategy five pillars

2199
01:16:39,350 --> 01:16:36,880
so i had my reading with k randall may

2200
01:16:43,910 --> 01:16:42,470
we talked about ufos

2201
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:43,920
i'm sorry

2202
01:16:47,590 --> 01:16:45,679
we talked about ufos a little bit she

2203
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:47,600
said she believes there are four major

2204
01:16:54,870 --> 01:16:53,270
thanks dsm i appreciate it um

2205
01:16:56,470 --> 01:16:54,880
k randall my said there are four major

2206
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:56,480
groups here in her opinion other groups

2207
01:17:00,149 --> 01:16:58,239
may be coming here and she thinks the

2208
01:17:02,870 --> 01:17:00,159
four groups have different opinions on

2209
01:17:04,310 --> 01:17:02,880
how to handle things didn't explain that

2210
01:17:06,390 --> 01:17:04,320
i would love to have her on and talk

2211
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:06,400
about that but it's psychic information

2212
01:17:10,950 --> 01:17:09,120
so it's like can't verify it um

2213
01:17:12,390 --> 01:17:10,960
she said she thinks other people come

2214
01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:12,400
here from other

2215
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:15,040
civilizations a vast universe and not

2216
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,640
everybody has the best intentions for

2217
01:17:20,709 --> 01:17:18,480
humanity um

2218
01:17:22,709 --> 01:17:20,719
she thought the 2009 19 events i'm like

2219
01:17:24,149 --> 01:17:22,719
did you did you hear about them

2220
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:24,159
she's like yes i heard about them how

2221
01:17:27,750 --> 01:17:25,600
could you not hear about them she does

2222
01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,760
not think they're russia or china in her

2223
01:17:31,030 --> 01:17:30,000
opinion but i you know seen some events

2224
01:17:32,630 --> 01:17:31,040
say it is

2225
01:17:35,430 --> 01:17:32,640
more has more weight

2226
01:17:37,270 --> 01:17:35,440
um i have to look at my notes

2227
01:17:40,390 --> 01:17:37,280
different agendas yeah could be but she

2228
01:17:42,229 --> 01:17:40,400
said negative positive all of the above

2229
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:42,239
so paul hellyer

2230
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,920
i need to find out i thought paul

2231
01:17:47,669 --> 01:17:45,840
hellyer's information never he never

2232
01:17:49,030 --> 01:17:47,679
said it came from government sources but

2233
01:17:50,310 --> 01:17:49,040
somebody said you need to look into paul

2234
01:17:52,070 --> 01:17:50,320
hellyer again

2235
01:17:54,390 --> 01:17:52,080
because that's not true but

2236
01:17:55,990 --> 01:17:54,400
i put him in the same ballpark as escher

2237
01:17:57,750 --> 01:17:56,000
the guy from israel you know because he

2238
01:17:59,590 --> 01:17:57,760
was all over the place i'm like where is

2239
01:18:01,350 --> 01:17:59,600
he getting this information if it's from

2240
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:01,360
his government sources great but i think

2241
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:03,199
it's just from books and reading stuff

2242
01:18:05,910 --> 01:18:04,480
and that's you know

2243
01:18:08,790 --> 01:18:05,920
another person i want to interview two

2244
01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:08,800
people remote viewing lynn buchanan

2245
01:18:12,950 --> 01:18:11,199
remote viewer paul smith back in the day

2246
01:18:14,950 --> 01:18:12,960
on coast to coast it was paul smith lin

2247
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:14,960
buchanan and joe mcmonicle i would love

2248
01:18:18,870 --> 01:18:17,440
to get mcmonicle he's hard to get i'll

2249
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,880
try though

2250
01:18:23,910 --> 01:18:21,280
those three are like the original

2251
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,920
gangsters from remote viewing um there

2252
01:18:26,870 --> 01:18:25,199
were some remote there were some females

2253
01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:26,880
from that group but

2254
01:18:31,590 --> 01:18:28,560
i don't see them public at all hella

2255
01:18:35,350 --> 01:18:33,750
so yeah i'm gonna go

2256
01:18:36,950 --> 01:18:35,360
what's real quick what are the four

2257
01:18:38,550 --> 01:18:36,960
groups according to that person no she

2258
01:18:39,669 --> 01:18:38,560
didn't say so

2259
01:18:42,229 --> 01:18:39,679
um

2260
01:18:43,669 --> 01:18:42,239
i will try to get her on

2261
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:43,679
she said she's fascinated by this

2262
01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:49,189
if i could get her on but you know it's

2263
01:18:53,110 --> 01:18:51,040
remember it's psychically derived

2264
01:18:54,550 --> 01:18:53,120
information with no feedback whatsoever

2265
01:18:55,910 --> 01:18:54,560
if she said that she spoke to people in

2266
01:18:57,430 --> 01:18:55,920
the government who said you're on the

2267
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:57,440
right track okay

2268
01:19:02,550 --> 01:19:00,800
that's you know that's one thing but

2269
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:02,560
i haven't heard her say that still i'd

2270
01:19:05,750 --> 01:19:04,239
like to hear her opinion

2271
01:19:07,750 --> 01:19:05,760
you know she does a lot of medical

2272
01:19:09,189 --> 01:19:07,760
readings

2273
01:19:10,790 --> 01:19:09,199
that's what her focus is that's what her

2274
01:19:12,630 --> 01:19:10,800
specialty is and like i said she's a

2275
01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:12,640
doctor but i don't know what she's i'm

2276
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:15,440
trying to find out what her phd is in

2277
01:19:17,830 --> 01:19:16,400
um

2278
01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:17,840
i'm right about hellyer getting

2279
01:19:28,630 --> 01:19:27,030
thanks v thank you preston

2280
01:19:30,630 --> 01:19:28,640
yes michael vi

2281
01:19:32,390 --> 01:19:30,640
i will i'll share it with him again

2282
01:19:35,189 --> 01:19:32,400
because he needs to be on again and he

2283
01:19:40,149 --> 01:19:36,950
follow up with michael oh kit green's

2284
01:19:45,030 --> 01:19:41,669
i would love to talk to her about all of

2285
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:45,040
that stuff um gaza ethan i love gods of

2286
01:19:49,590 --> 01:19:47,280
eden but

2287
01:19:50,470 --> 01:19:49,600
that's that's um

2288
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,480
they

2289
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:52,159
are manipulating us for their own

2290
01:19:57,350 --> 01:19:53,760
benefit and they have been for a long

2291
01:19:59,510 --> 01:19:57,360
time that's the gist of the book um

2292
01:20:00,870 --> 01:19:59,520
really negative so just remember that be

2293
01:20:02,870 --> 01:20:00,880
prepared for that somebody read the

2294
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:02,880
entire thing online just some person you

2295
01:20:06,790 --> 01:20:05,040
can find it on youtube

2296
01:20:08,390 --> 01:20:06,800
but if semi-van is right then all that

2297
01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:08,400
is nonsense so now i'm thinking

2298
01:20:11,350 --> 01:20:10,080
everything over again

2299
01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:11,360
which happens

2300
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:12,320
with this

2301
01:20:16,070 --> 01:20:14,159
subject you can never be too sure about

2302
01:20:18,310 --> 01:20:16,080
anything

2303
01:20:20,709 --> 01:20:18,320
thanks rich

2304
01:20:22,470 --> 01:20:20,719
thanks m shepherd take care guys thanks